thinking about a Mosin Nagant

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Someone tell me the pros and cons to them. Looking for a all purpose gone mainly for fun but possibly hunting. Pics would be nice. I can get one for 99$ but dont know much about them cept there were ALOT made and they worked ok for the Russians.
 
A great rifle

I'm happy with mine. Had no trouble keeping the shots in the black at 200 yards. Not great groups but thats operator technique and old eyes :)

Check out 7.62x54r.net for a good guide to the stampings. Mine is a Tula M91/30. I also paid $99 for mine from the local sporting goods store. It was sold as a combo with the bayonet, cleaning kit, strap and ammo pouches.
 

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Buy one!

Think of all the cheap surplus weapons that were available a mere 20 years ago that have now doubled or better in price.

Where and what else can you buy that is a full power battle rifle and sells for less than a hundred bucks?
 
W.E.G. very funny photo. I had a short one for a short time and it was like that. Man what a blaster that thing was. I gave it away because it nearly gave the dog a heart attack.
What a gun for the money.
 
I've been thinking of one, too, but a friend of mine spent a couple hundred bucks on one and still couldn't get it to shoot very well. Maybe his bedding job or muzzle crowning was bad, I dunno. He's set it aside for now.
 
I recently scored another Mosin for 100 bucks.

Whoa! What kind is that? And where'd you score it for $100? The front sight, barrel band and handguard is mucho different. Is it a Finn?
 
I have five.
Each one's different.
And I love every one of them.
They are great shooters - and fun.
Very simple to use and clean.
Hard to shoot accurately.
But if you learn to shoot one well, other rifles will feel almost too easy.
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N4Z. Nice snag. Your M28/30 is worth at least 3 times what you paid for it. I too found one at a gunshow marked as an Austrian Mauser. I got it for $85 if I recall. The M28/30 was a winner at the 1936 Olympics. Mine is a 1 MOA firearm. The Finn mosins are in a different class by themselves.
 
Its an addiction. I cant stop....my wife enables me by making it possible for me to keep aquiring Mosin Nagants....she dissasembles and reassembles that bolt fast and flawlessly during cleaning, as well, she often outshoots me....

Matter of FACT; I traded a Wolf Ruff today for a Sako M-39, about 20% blue left, bore is SHARP, dated 1944, so it may have never been fired in anger, but I am gonna hunt Wolves with it. Its shoots spot on like any other MosinNagant.
They are not cheap by any means, just a damn good deal. Ammo is easy to come by in bulk, they will shoot as far as you can see, and they are simple with only a couple tricks to use and a need to be cleaned like ALL RIFLES should, after ever outing.

Buy one, your not wasting a penny. Keep it clean. Sell it if you dont like it.
 
No cons huh??? Well I guess I will go ahead and pick one up if anything it will be a cool gun to show off to my buds and if its a shooter would make for a great Hog gun:cool:
 
Having shot a couple of friend's MNs a few times, allow me to rain on the MN love fest a little:

1) If you own a MN you better carry a screwdriver on your belt to deal with the inevitable rimlock.
2) Buy a nice rawhide mallet. It makes a great tool for opening the bolt after firing.
3) Forget about loading it with stripper clips. The reason MNs have bayonets permanently attached is because they are near impossible to reload using clips.

Just because the Russian were too cheap to pay Mauser for a design that actually works doesn't mean you have to be. Also, I bet you don't have several million rounds of 7.62x54R laying around, like the Czar did either. Get a Yugo M48 in 8mm Mauser or the like for $200. Sure it's twice as expensive, but it's also more than twice the rifle.

Pics of me shooting mine at a local rifle match. Yes, everybody else was using modern self-loading rifles. Sometimes I just gotta be contrary. BSW

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Pros, cheap, easy to find, decent shooter, powerful enough to hunt anything in north America.
Cons, not a tack driver (it's a milsurp, so what do you expect?) ammunition is more expensive than a .22 rimfire. ;-)
 
1) If you own a MN you better carry a screwdriver on your belt to deal with the inevitable rimlock.
2) Buy a nice rawhide mallet. It makes a great tool for opening the bolt after firing.
I bought my first Mosin Nagant about 20 years ago, for $65 (M28 Finn, BTW), and own at least half a dozen of them now. I've never experienced "rimlock" nor have I ever had trouble working the bolt. I must be doing something wrong.

I also have a few Mausers, and I do prefer them. I sure wish I had bought a closet full of Turkish Mausers a few years back when they were less than $50 each. If you get a good one with good ammo, both the Mosin Nagant and the Mauser will shoot quite accurately. Price, availability, and power of ammo for each is pretty comparable.

I appreciate the Mosin Nagant simply because they are historically interesting and inexpensive, and fun to shoot!

One thing that can't be said enough: if you shoot surplus ammo, clean your bore right away!!! I don't know how many old rifles I've seen with rusted out bores because someone was too lazy to clean after shooting corrosive ammo. Same day, too, not next week or whenever you get to it. I loaned a rifle to a good friend once who swore up and down that he would clean it right away after shooting. I even stressed the importance of it. The rifle came back frozen up with rust.:(
 
its pretty easy to cut the spring and make the bolt easy to open, and out of hundreds of rounds through several mosins i have never experienced rimlock.
 
Yep, 100 bucks. 1940 Finn M28/30. Insiders deal this was. Guy that shoots matches with me had told me about it. He used it in one of our matches and I of course showed interest. After it didn't shoot well for him in the match I guess he didn't want it anymore. Said it had been in some farmers barn and the guy had given it to him.

The bore is pitted. Surplus ammo and a negligent owner the likely culprit. Otherwise it's in pretty good shape. It slugs at .311 over .301. I reload this caliber and shall see if I can find some magic for it.

For 100 bucks why the heck not!? ;)
 
I think Briansmithwins is referring to a condition in MoisnNagants known as 'Sticky Bolt" which is the result of a dirty/rusty chamber and especially with laquer'd cased ammo.
The rim of the cartridge is where the cartridge headspaces, and its up against the barrel with the extractor gripping it. While you are lifting the bolt the extractor is gripping the case rim and rotating in in form of primary extraction, loosening from the chamber. When you have the case stuck there, the extractor is dragging along the rim, with the last few degrees especially hard as the firing pin spring is comming to full compression.
The extractor in a Mauser dosent rotate with the bolt, and there is no drag in an odd angle for the hand, and when the same condition happens in a Mauser, a straight jerk to extract is physiclly easier, than the hinder'd upward lift motion of the Mosin.

Often, when shot with corrosive ammo, a person dosent wash out the primers salts that are sucking water from the air as they lay against the steel of the bore and chamber. Just overnight it is rusty. It was the same for most all Militarys till the 50-60's when most Western nations were using non corrosive priming.

Insted of a hammer/screwdriver, carry and use a cleaning kit.

Clean your bolt, and reciver, keep 'em both lightly lubed. I keep mine near polish'd and they were issued "bright" and were intended to be kept that clean. They found that blueing was a friction multiplier...


I pour boiling water down my barrel after every use. If Im in camp, I scrub and use soap if I have it, but boiling water to flush, the rod with muzzle cap, brush and more boiling hot water (Boiling so it drys itself in seconds) I may leave carbon if I only use water, but getting it dry is easy, and water totally dissolves and flushes all the rust making salts away.
I pay the chamber its own attention though witha serious scrub to eliminate all build up.

When I get home, I do a very thorough cleaning with brushes, patches, solvents and oils on metal and wood.

When I first buy a Mosin, I take brake cleaning fluid and scrub the chamber with a 20 gauge shotgun bore brush, some use gasoiline and a 20 gauge brush chuk'd onto a cordless drill, after removing the action from the stock.This gets rid of all those years of cosmo drying out, which can remain, nice and shiney, to glue your cases into the chamber after a couple preheating shots. Left over cosmo and laquer are some serious glues under pressures, and both only need to be a film in thickness. Clean bores will not allow anything to stick in the first place.
The Arsenal sent 'em out working, sighted and preserved for WW3, and they arrived here ready to shoot, after a REALLY GOOD CLEANING. Most survived a war or two, and the barrels were taken care of till they got to these shores.

Anyway, 7.62X54r is still being issed in armys everywhere, the milsurp is redily available an dthe guns are growing in value.

A couple hints; To work the safty, put the butt to the inner crook of your right elbow and then using your fingers , pull and twist easily enough.

Dont buy the bright steel "Triangle with a T", as they are Chinese fakes of Tikka made strippers, Chinese Army rejects, then stamped and sold here.
Get Russian, Finn, Bulgarian strippers , or the blued Chinese ones that their Mosin ammo is on. I use Bulgarian ones again and again as speed loaders.I keep 'em clean and lightly oiled.
 
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