Thinking about this 1911

[grubbylabs]

What is it about the pistil forums that people cant help but recommend any thing but what the OP is asking about. I am not asking about a 220 or a Kimber or a Springer, I am asking if any one has any experience with a the Sig Ultra. I don't care if you have a 220 or a what ever and its the greatest thing on earth, I am not asking about that.

 

[Fishbed77]

What is it about the pistil forums that people cant help but recommend any thing but what the OP is asking about.

Because folks can only recommend what they have experience with, and the particular specific model of ~3" SIG 1911 you linked isn't that common.

That said, I agree that P220-series SIGs have nothing to do with this discussion.

 

[grubbylabs]

That said, I agree that P220-series SIGs have nothing to do with this discussion.

Exactly, so why recommend it? Its not even close to what I am looking for.

I appreciate the comments about the size and reliability, they are obviously concerns to think about, and I appreciate the I don't have the 3" version but my other Sig 1911's run great. That's good info to have, but you should get a gun X that isn't even the same type of gun that is useless.

 

[rduckwor]

I have a 5" Sig 1911 I have/shot for five years in IDPA matches. It has been flawless. Can't say the same for me. It it weren't flawless, I have confidence Sig would fix it.

Good luck,

RMD

 

[grubbylabs]

Thanks

 

[cpirtle]

What is it about the pistil forums that people cant help but recommend any thing but what the OP is asking about. I am not asking about a 220 or a Kimber or a Springer, I am asking if any one has any experience with a the Sig Ultra. I don't care if you have a 220 or a what ever and its the greatest thing on earth, I am not asking about that.

Sig has more variants on the 1911 than most other companies, I'd even go out on a limb and say more than anyone. It's going to be tough to find a reasonable sample of people that own one of their more obscure models.

Agreed on the non-1911 posts though..

I bought a Sig Tacops Commander and called Sig about a non-threaded barrel and even the catalog number off the box was not in their system, the guy on the phone told me my pistol didn't exist

Sig has been successful with their 1911's and they are pumping out variants, good for them.

All that said, I've owned at least 6 of their 1911's and all have been flawless. I've also owned multiples from just about every other manufacturer in the $500-$1100 price point, so I'm not just a Sig fanboy.

When I started selling off all of my mid-range 1911's because I got bit by the high-end bug, the only one I kept was my Tacops Commander. It doesn't compare to a $1500+ 1911, but it's ultra-reliable and overall just a bad a$$ 1911.

Line for line Sig compares well to everything in it's price range, and better than some. Could there be the occasional dud out there? Sure, but I've never seen one so I can recommend them wholeheartedly.

If you decide you want a comparison to other brands I'm happy to weigh in because everyone has opinions.

 

[grubbylabs]

Thanks for the feed back, it is quite encouraging. I too have herd nothing but good about Sig and and have only read one bad range report on this particular pistol. One reviewer had 3 FTF's or FTE's or something like that no one else had any such complaints that I could find. 3 issues at the first range session does not seem like cause to give up on a new out of the box pistil in my opinion though. I would assume that most things that are well made will have a break in period especially a mechanical device. Maybe I am mistaken and folks have come to expect $800-$1000 1911's to never have an issue at any time. I can understand both sides of the coin on that one.

 

[mmay1]

grubbylads, while I do not have the model Sig you are contemplating, I have had numerous Sigs over the years and have a lot of confidence in Sig to produce a reliable handgun. If that was the model I wanted, I would buy it.

My experience with the 3" 1911-format 45s has been mixed - I had 3 from 3 different manufacturers (neither a Sig) that we not reliable and I don't have them now. But I did not conclude that a 1911 in this size will not work. I have 2 Kimber Ultras that are 100% reliable and I carry one of them, a pre-series II CDP, on a daily basis. With a high quality mag and an occasional new recoil spring, I have confidence in my 3" 1911s.

 

[Nathan Detroit]

You might want to try registering for the Sig-specific forums since they are more likely to have members with actual experience on that model. Sig Forum and Sig Talk come to mind.

 

[grubbylabs]

When I was doing some Google searches for range reports they only had 2-3 on those two forums. I have been able to find a dozen or so range reports along with the 3-4 feed back comments left on Buds about the gun. I feel pretty comfortable in getting and hope to have a range report for you all within the next month or two.

If mine turns out to be a great shooter, you will know, and if its a turd, you will know that as well. I would not encourage someone to get what I think is a turd of a gun just because I have it.

 

[cpirtle]

My experience has been mixed on sub-compact 1911's as well, but leaning toward mostly positive. I compromised and went with an aluminum frame Dan Wesson CCO for a while as my most compact 1911, only a couple ounces heavier.

With a sub-1911 there are compromises and some do have a tendency to run a little rough, some never run right and some never fail. I recently fell into a steal on a DW ECO 9mm and it has run like a top since day one. (contrary to the negative press)

I agree that 3 failures the first time out is not a situation I would lose sleep over. I learned long ago to throw out the results of the first 200 or so rounds, and start keeping track after that. I don't carry a pistol until I put 750+ rounds through it. Most pistols never need the 200 round buffer, but if it does I don't worry.

You could certainly run into a rought running subcompact Sig but in my experience you probably won't. Keep in mind, for the most part aside from deature changes, various models of Sig are all built to the same standards, so for the most part a compact is a compact is a compact. I recently have seen some "Custom Shop" models floating around and the price point would imply that they are not too much different than their standard upgraded models, but I have not verified that.

Have fun

 

[Jim PHL]

Grubby; A while ago I went into a shop cash-in-hand to buy either a Colt Defender or a Springfield EMP. I saw and handled several Sig 1911's for the first time that day and it was enough for me to postpone my purchase to take some time and do some homework on them. It soon became a choice between the Ultra and C3 for me. I ended up buying the C3 because I've always been a "CCO" fan and also because this was not going to be strictly a carry gun for me. If I was looking for a gun to be mainly a carry gun the Ultra would have been my choice. (Nothing against the Defender or EMP - I have another Colt that I love and have owned a Springfield "Micro-Compact" in the past which is at the top of my "wish I never sold" list.)

What I learned doing that homework is that Sig packs a lot of value for their price point into their 1911's and the vast majority of their owners are very happy with them. With their external extractors and "Sig-like" slide they are obviously not for the 1911 purists, but my research and experience with mine say they are pretty good guns and a good value.

I'd recommend doing your own homework, too and check out Sig-specific forums and also Sig-sub-forums in the 1911 forums as well as you tube.

(just my opinion and worth about what you paid for it!) Good Luck

 

[grubbylabs]

I spent an evening reading the reviews and after finding only one negative review in which the reviewer only put 50 rounds down range, I decided to go a head put some money down on the Sig. I should be able to pick it up in just a few weeks. I don't normally put guns on layaway but with the spuratic supply of guns lately I decided that if I was going to get it, I should just put some down on it.