This Anaconda will not be a shooter any more
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BluesBear
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In the real world, many things are crystal clear.
Quite often William of Occum is right.
As my Father used to say,
The easiest way to learn is to pay attention.
The best way to pay attention is to shut your mouth and open your ears, open your eyes and open your mind.
Quite often William of Occum is right.
As my Father used to say,
The easiest way to learn is to pay attention.
The best way to pay attention is to shut your mouth and open your ears, open your eyes and open your mind.
Vern Humphrey
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Or as Will Rogers said, "There's three kinds of people. There's those that can learn from books. There's those who can learn from watching others. And there's those that have to pee on the electric fence for themselves."
Selfdfenz
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I'm very glad no one was injured in these accidents. I have praise for the guys that shared these stories because I trust their aim in sharing is to get the rest of us to be safer and/or more careful. Everyone can decide for them selves if busting the thread starters chops is a class act or not.
A couple of points worth at least considering are:
1) the data on reloading the S&W 500 is not decades in depth, a few years only
2) the powder listed as being used in the 44 is a "relatively" new one IIRC, we only have a few years expereince with that propellant
I'm not saying an error in reloading did not occur in both cases but putting 1) and 2) together means considering all the possibilities makes sense.
(Come to think of it what was that Lil'Gun recall all about?)
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A couple of points worth at least considering are:
1) the data on reloading the S&W 500 is not decades in depth, a few years only
2) the powder listed as being used in the 44 is a "relatively" new one IIRC, we only have a few years expereince with that propellant
I'm not saying an error in reloading did not occur in both cases but putting 1) and 2) together means considering all the possibilities makes sense.
(Come to think of it what was that Lil'Gun recall all about?)
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sturmruger
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I don't think it is even worth debating. This gun failed because of an error in the reloading process. The gun owner said that is what it had to be, nothing else makes any sense. Colts are kind of like Rugers they are known to be tough guns, but when you mess up something and double load a case this kind of thing is bound to happen.
JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
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Well said SturmRuger. I've been a Ruger fan for the last 25 years and since I do tend to push things a bit hard with my hunting loads, I rely upon their strength and design. But the Colt's of the last couple decades are also very strong. Double charging just about any powder load in a pistol case is leaving the door open for disaster. Too much crimp on a heavy load can be detramental to the weaker handguns. They might not blow up, but I've even broken the frame lock on a Taurus model 66 when the loads were too strong. No real signs of too much powder, or split cases. Not even flattened primers, But frame damage was the result.
There have been comments about using powders that can't be double charged. Great idea. And that's what I do. But, even a 20% extra charge can be dangerous. So, All warm loads should be loaded single stage. Each one should be weighed after thrown. No,, Not every fifth one. Every charge. I also have a Dillon press. It's awfully tempting to speed up the reload process just because I can. But I don't with the hot loads. The Dillon powder measure is very reliable. But we need to be careful with heavy or even some light loads. I've been reading about light charging the .243. I've resorted to not doing it.
Owner of this mangled Anaconda admits his search for the one powder that fits all, allowed for the double charge. He admits that must have been what happened.
We should be thankful for his honesty. If this thread saves one firearm. One life or injury to someone by them making a change to their own reloading processes to be one step safer. That is worth his humility in public. He's lucky to be here to shoot another day.
Hopefully there are many that have read this thread that will analyze their reloading practices and adjust if neccessary.
-Steve
There have been comments about using powders that can't be double charged. Great idea. And that's what I do. But, even a 20% extra charge can be dangerous. So, All warm loads should be loaded single stage. Each one should be weighed after thrown. No,, Not every fifth one. Every charge. I also have a Dillon press. It's awfully tempting to speed up the reload process just because I can. But I don't with the hot loads. The Dillon powder measure is very reliable. But we need to be careful with heavy or even some light loads. I've been reading about light charging the .243. I've resorted to not doing it.
Owner of this mangled Anaconda admits his search for the one powder that fits all, allowed for the double charge. He admits that must have been what happened.
We should be thankful for his honesty. If this thread saves one firearm. One life or injury to someone by them making a change to their own reloading processes to be one step safer. That is worth his humility in public. He's lucky to be here to shoot another day.
Hopefully there are many that have read this thread that will analyze their reloading practices and adjust if neccessary.
-Steve
BluesBear
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What Jack said +1.
badgerrr
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"Makes me shy away from reloads and reloading! I would hate to ruin a expensive gun trying to save a few cents buying cheap reloaded ammo! "
Every time I hear something like this, I flash-back to the day I opened a spanking fresh pack of Remington 12 gauge rifled slugs only to find one round where the slug....had been loaded SIDEWAYS!
Please don't think factory ammo is unquestionably safe. Life is a gamble. Spin the wheel and take your chances.
Every time I hear something like this, I flash-back to the day I opened a spanking fresh pack of Remington 12 gauge rifled slugs only to find one round where the slug....had been loaded SIDEWAYS!
Please don't think factory ammo is unquestionably safe. Life is a gamble. Spin the wheel and take your chances.
TimboKhan
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This is a maxim that I wholeheartedly agree with. I think reloading is fun, interesting and a good idea for those that have the patience to do it properly, but shooting someone elses reloads, especially someone you don't know, is like kissing someone elses girlfriend, in my opinion.
BluesBear
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Good idea. Because, unless that other person has a #06 FFL, it is unlawful for them to sell their reloaded ammunition.
Technically, it is also unlawful to give away reloaded ammunition.
In the eyes of F-troop, reloading for anyone other than yourself is considered "manufacturing".
Don't confuse a #06 FFL (license to manufacture small arms ammunition) with a standard run of the mill #01 FFL.
A standard FFL can sell reloaded ammunition produced by a licensed manufacturer. But they need a separate FFL to reload/manufacture/produce ammunition for sale.
cedarsavage
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I betcha four or five such incidents could lead to "flinching"!
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Krag
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Like you would expect something else from a Colt product? 
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