This has been bothering me for a while: Tolerance vs. Fit

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HDCamel

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You hear it all the time. "This or that 1911 is unreliable because it's manufactured to tighter tolerances than the original design." "AKs are more reliable but less accurate than AR-15s because of looser tolerances". Ad nauseam.

To a person who knows the difference, it just as annoying as hearing someone say “clip” when they mean “magazine”. I can understand why there might be some confusion, as tolerance and fit often go hand-in-hand, but they are NOT synonymous.

Put simply, “tolerance” is an engineering and manufacturing term that refers to the amount that a part can deviate from the design specifications and still be considered “good” or “acceptable”. A margin of error if you will. Any part that falls outside of this margin should be rejected as it is out of spec. Quality Control 101.
A “tight” tolerance means that this margin of error is very small, which increases the number of rejects and decreases the number of accepted parts and/or necessitates the procurement and use of more sophisticated machining equipment and techniques. This drives the total manufacturing cost up but results in a more consistent product.

A “loose" tolerance is the exact opposite. Fewer rejects and more accepted parts make for lower material/manufacturing costs but with greater inconsistencies in the product. Whether those inconsistencies negatively impact reliability is dependent on how great the inconsistencies are and the intended fit of the original design.

“Fit” of course refers to the clearance between different parts in a given system. It can be tight, loose, or whatever.

Here’s where the confusion usually comes in.
A design with a tight fit always requires tighter tolerances to work properly while a design with loose fit allows for looser tolerances.

A loose fitting design that is manufactured to tight tolerances will still be loose fitting, it’s just that each part will be closer in specifications to the original design. They will be loose in a consistent way. A tight fitting design made to loose (rather, insufficiently tight) tolerances might fit fine, or it might fit too loosely or too tightly.

In essence, a gun that doesn’t function reliably because it’s too tight fitting isn’t unreliable because of tight tolerances. Quite the opposite. It’s unreliable because the tolerances aren’t tight enough.

Tighter tolerances will NEVER negatively impact the reliability of a mechanically sound design. Only tolerances which are TOO LOOSE will.

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I agree. Most people on the internet dont have more than a superficial understanding of the subject at hand, so they parrot what they see.

Thus myth perpetuates on the errornet. Gun nuts are unusually bad at this. For some reason many of us seem to want our guns to hold some kind of mystery or mysique, so we take silly things for granted when they fit into our fantasy.
 
Yup...

If you look at the original blue prints you will find...

The receiver slot dim is .754" and the tolerance is +.004", -0

While the frame rail dim is .751" and the tolerance is +0, -.003"

So even with perfect machining that hits the design dimensions spot on, you will have .003" of clearance, which many top pistol smiths will scoff at. But they are modifying the original clearance spec., usually down to .001" to maximize accuracy for top bullseye competitors. While the original spec is for a combat pistol with clearance from .003" to .010".

Kimber is renown for tight slide fits and accurate pistols.... But if a customer is having cycling problems they'll tell them that they have two pump 400 rounds through the pistol B4 they'll look at it (i.e. you have to increase the clearance by wearing away the interfering material).

While Colt will often get slammed in the forums for sloppy slide fits, yet their pistols are renown for running 100%, right out of the box.
 
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