This is a typical home invasion

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I haven't missed the point. I already agreed with the point.

Then why add an off topic comment? It's a natural thing to want to defend yourself against a stranger breaking down your door. Nearly everyone already does that. However most people never think of the people they normally associate with as a risk....until it happens. And the fact is, that the greater risk is the people one normally associates with.

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If there is a roving gang of psycos there is also a good chance it may never be reported and dealt with at the police level.

Did you stay up late watching A Clockwork Orange on the late show last night? Where are there roving gangs of psychos operating?

Police commanders in the highest crime areas are very likely cooking their crime statistics to appease what ever polititians they happen to be brown nosing that season.

This means unless (Until ?) that psycopathic rapist murders or kills someone in a way that provokes public outrage, all his attempts to maim or kill and his stalking will be reported as simple misdemenor assaults or harrasment complaints rather than felonies which means no apb, no investigation beyond filing a report (for which they make you sit and wait a long time before assisting you.)

Let me get this straight, you are asserting that all of the violent crime that is being reported as assaults, rapes and murders between victims and attackers that know each other is actually being committed by roving gangs of psychos and is reported the way it is to cover up the fact that roving bands of psychos are lurking in the shadows everywhere and the powers that be don't want to panic the public so they lie about these crimes?

I do notice is they love to somehow imply it's the victims fault whatever the reason be they will make up a reason if they have to rather than dealing with the issues of violence that plague their jurisdiction.

So you are denying the fact that some people choose to be a victim by making poor choices? The whole point of this thread is to point out that the choices we make in life have a huge affect on if we become a victim of a crime.
 
So do you have any verifiable examples that prove my premise is full of it? The purpose of the forum is to discuss things. Prove your assertion.
 
Then why add an off topic comment? It's a natural thing to want to defend yourself against a stranger breaking down your door. Nearly everyone already does that. However most people never think of the people they normally associate with as a risk....until it happens. And the fact is, that the greater risk is the people one normally associates with.

Just having a friendly discussion, since this is, you know, a discussion board.

As far as what most people never think of, I think you're pretty much preaching to the choir with this one. Not that it's a bad idea to reiterate this stuff, but I had no idea you'd be so offended if the discussion went a little bit to the side of the main point. I certainly said nothing to counter the point, and put out no disinformation, so didn't see the point for the attitude on your part. If you're going to be so easily offended by the normal ebb and flow of conversation, I'll simply not comment on any further of your threads. Have a good day.
 
When seconds count - -

Yes, we have all heard that before but it is still true.

About 25 years ago, I was living in a mobile home subdivision (we owned trailers AND lots - no rentals) and had, as one of my neighbors, a man living with his g/f and her 3 kids.
They both were known to drink more than they should and sometimes gor "physical" where he would use his hands and she would reply with a kitchen knife. They also weren't real good on paying their bills and had lost their landline phone service.
So, this one evening, she comes over to use my phone to call the police and I fail to close the inner door, with only the aluminum storm door being shut. I'm on the phone talking to the dispatcher when he starts rattling the screen door. He rattles it so hard that they hook-&-eye latch disengages and he comes in. I'm holding my .380 in my right hand, the phone in my left yelling at the dispatcher "He's here in my house! I'm pointing my gun at him! Now get out here!!"
At the time, I was 5'7" and 210 lbs while he was 6' and 270! I was in the corner of the room on the phone with no exit (the g/f had run down the hall to hide) so I would have had NO QUALMS about shooting this guy IF had had taken one step closer!
Fortunately, he wasn't that drunk and turned and left.
It still took almost 10 minutes for the police to arrive!
One step and one second away from firing a shot - - WHEW!! :eek:

The next day, he came back to apologize and to help me fix the storm door.
He wasn't a "bad guy", just someone who is better off not drinking.
 
i live in a neighborhood of $600k+ homes (about 3X the city median). We have about 300 homes and in the last 3 years have had 3 kick in burglaries and one burglary attempt where the burglar left when he realized the people were home. I know three single women who have had people break into their apartments while they were home.

The thieves knock on the door and if no one answers they kick in the front door. If someone answers they ask if so and so is home and then apologize for having the wrong house.

None of us would know about these crimes if we didnt have a mailing list where residents reported them.

Every area is different and you need to figure out what the risk is in your area.
 
Live a quiet life , keep your Stuff Private and be prepared, Most of all Pray for the Safety and Protection of your family and friends.

Home invasions are occurring more all the time it seems why depends on who you ask. Follow the Boy Scout motto and Be Prepared.
 
Recently,in our rural area a home invasion occurred.The invaders bypassed the parents bedroom,the younger brothers bedroom and killed the 20 year old son in his bed.They escaped and haven't been caught.Very little information has been made public in weeks.Obviously a targeted hit.The family claims to have no idea who it may have been.
 
I'm retired LE and most of the home invasions in my area were criminal on criminal and usually involved drugs.
 
Excellent thread and very informative. I generally agree that the vast majority of home invasions in the US are targeted at people in the drug trade or some other illicit activity. It's occurred to me that one reason is that the victims will be afraid to call the cops.

My incident didn't fit the profile, however. We lived in a fairly nice neighborhood in Las Cruces, NM in the 1990s. Our neighbors across the street moved out and rented out their home. Within a few days of the new tenants moving in, we had an attempted home invasion.

It was definitely scary, and I was in dire fear for my family. It was about 11pm on a weeknight, and I was working in the back of the house, when my wife came to me in a panic, saying that something was going on at our front door. My only handgun was a Taurus 85CH, and I grabbed it and went with her. As we arrived in the living room, we heard pounding on the door and a woman's voice yelling: "Help, help, lemme in!"

We didn't turn on lights. My wife retreated to the back of the house, and I started to dial 911. At that point, two or more large males began trying to kick in our front door. I found that I couldn't dial three numbers on a cordless phone with my left hand (the right held the .38). I finally managed to dial 911 and told them that a group of men was kicking in my front door RIGHT NOW.

I stayed on the line with the dispatch and waited in ambush in the dark hallway. They were kicking a reinforced, steel mesh door in a steel frame, that opened outward. It was secured with a deadbolt. I'm sure the dispatcher could hear the WHAM, WHAM, WHAM of the thug's foot against the door. I was terrified that they would notice that they were standing next to a window that would have been easier to break, and much quieter than their attempts on the door.

The door held, and they left after a few minutes. I never saw their faces, because I was afraid that looking out the window would have brought their attention to it.

The police arrived about 30 minutes after my call. I had little to offer them, as we hadn't ever seen our attackers. We were never asked to file a report.

I suspect our new neighbors ran short of beer or drug money. They evidently didn't pay rent, or messed up the house, as they were evicted and were gone not long after that.

Although no one was hurt, this incident inspired me to start carrying at home (even though CCW was years away in NM). Waiting to ambush someone in the dark is an experience I never want to repeat. Doing it without a firearm would have been several times more terrifying.

Respectfully,
Dirty Bob
 
What a terrifying experience, wow. And *30 minutes* for the police to arrive. Perfect example of the necessity to be armed at home and not take anything for granted.
 
"30 minutes"?!? :uhoh:

As Charlie Brown is always saying - "Good Grief!!" :eek:

I'm glad to hear those "neighbors" moved Bob. You and your wife were probably on pins & needles until they were gone.
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IM not sure there is such a thing as a typical home invasion...except for maybe the motive... the need for cash.... there are career home invasion peole that do it for the thrill, and do it only when someone is home... anyone who knows someone who was robbed while they we sleeping will tell you police tell them this is a very common occurrence psychologically.

One of my gun club members was robbed by the boyfriend of someone from a bonded cleaning service. My gun club member was 86 years old... the cleaning girl told the boyfriend the guy had guns and was alone in the house and an easy target... the guy broke in thinking the member was not home,, and the club member shot the boyfriend dead in his living room... it made all the papers and the member never had to pay for another meal at our gun club... he just passed away... this happened four years ago

this home invasion is usually called a home invasion because the occupants of a house are home...

the first defense against this is to make your house as secure as possible... many people sleep through a home invasion.. if you know ahead of time how someone would break in you could better defend against it. look for the easiest access like a sliding patio door.. one that can be made complete impossible to break in by using a pipe... in the track.
 
You are describing a burglary not a home invasion! A home invasion has a very specific legal definition and calling a burglary where the resident is sleep in a home invasion just confuses the issue.
 
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