This may be a dumb question on CZ but:

[Glockdaddy]

I know that a decocker is available on the P01. The Standard 75B and the SP01 feature SA/DA with a safety. Now for the dumb part....

Can you drop the hammer safely on the 75B or SP01 and then have it "safe mode" (safety on) in DA? I know that with a Beretta you can drop the hammer then apply the safety and first shot is DA. I assume that you can do this with the CZ, otherwise I don't know when you would have the gun in DA.

In other words....can you "drop the hammer" safely with a round in the chamber?

Did I make this too hard to figure out?:banghead:

Thanks, I am trying to decide between a Beretta 92 and a SP01 or
75B tainless.....

 

[LoadedDrum]

The thumb safety on a non-tactical model SP01 is only a safety in the way that a the thumb safety on a 1911 is only a safety. The best way to go is cocked and locked. Otherwise you are thumbing the hammer down on a loaded chamber.

 

[Calhoun]

Dropping the hammer on a loaded cz 75 is like dropping the hammer on a loaded revolver. Pay attention to what you are doing, POINT IT IN A SAFE DIRECTION, and you shouldn't have any problem. It's perfectly safe to carry it loaded with the hammer down (the 75B has a firing pin block). Practice it with a snap cap a few times. You'll get the hang of it.

 

[ecureed]

yes you can safely manually decock a manual safety 75b...I do it all the time and CZ even specifies a method for doing it in the manual. Once you decock it though you cannot activate the manual safety...CZ's thinking is that the double action trigger pulls serves as the safety once decocked and an activated safety would be an unnecessary extra step to fire the gun if needed...hope this is what you were getting at

 

[Navy87Guy]

Both the CZ 75 and the SP01 come in a decocker-only version (the CZ 75BD and the SP-01 Tactical). It's a much safer way to get DA. Of course, you lose the option of C&L carry with those versions.

Jim

 

[Glockdaddy]

....thanks for the clarity

All of your responses make sense. Knowing that the safety can't be put on once the hammer has been decocked is what I really needed to hear. In reality it is like a 1911 when in SA and a revolver when in DA.

Navy87Guy you have a PM...

 

[chupacabrah]

Maybe I just dont know...but what are the pros/cons of a decocker only vs. a safety (in a DA/SA handgun)?

 

[1SOW]

A Matter of Preferences

I have a Sig DA/SA with a decocker and a CZ DA/SA without.
I prefer the CZ. I can carry it cocked and locked or carry it hammerdown or half-cocked DA-ready to shoot.
The Sig can only do hammer down full DA.

A little practice and letting the hammer down is not a major undertaking.

 

[BlindJustice]

This is not a stupid question, it's a great question for an understanding of
the mechaanics & safety mechanisms and their inter-relationship. The B suffix just like the 80-series Colt 1911, the S&W 1911 which has a similiar Schwartz design firing pin block should be understood by any owner of the same firearms which also have this FEATURE. Purists decry this firing pin block as something else that could break or go wrong, but I ask those what if
your gun is dropped muzzle down or hammer down without the this part of how the handgun has evolved would you not be just wanting to have a 1873
colt SIngle Action ARmy with the firing pin resting on the primer?

The thing that must be emphasized is if you let the hammer down with a round on the chamber in a CZ 75B you have to physically restrain it from striking the firing pin otherwise it may just go BANG.

Read the manual front to back and pause and reflect - handle the weapon with a SNap cap - a snap cap is a cartridge that looks like it's a loaded round but it only has a bullet in the case for operational tests, the primer is a hard rubber piece for practice 'firing' of a DUD or cycling it from the magazine to the chamber to ejection.

I hope this helps you and makes responders with a too brief response to
think about what they said in response to a quest of knowledge.

 

[zinj]

your gun is dropped muzzle down or hammer down without the this part of how the handgun has evolved would you not be just wanting to have a 1873
colt SIngle Action ARmy with the firing pin resting on the primer?

Almost all modern automatics use inertial firing pins, unlike the SAA. Even with the hammer down the firing pin is too short to contact the primer.

 

[Treo]

At first I was a little freaked out about dropping the hammer on a live round but CZs are designed to offer the DA option & I got used to it real quick. I like having the option of SA/DA , I choose DA because its one less thing that could go wrong in an SD situation.

 

[DougDubya]

I'd go with the decocker variants, the SP.01 Tactical and the CZ 75BD if that were the case.

 

[johnle]

i'm a 1911 boy so cocked and locked is the way to go...

the D/A is handy though if you have a stubborn primer =)
restrike!

 

[JDGray]

Question answered, no need to hear it again

 

[briang2ad]

Get the DA/SA

1) Decocking is easy - you don't need a lever.

2) The DA/SA is perfect for high hand hold on the gun. The Decocker is OK, but not as good - the little decocker has horns.

3) Decocker CZs are inherently HARD to work on.

4) If you ever break a trigger return spring, (and it happens), you likely won't be able to fix the $2 part yourself.

5) The DA/SA is much more versatile.

 

[sqlbullet]

Good tactical discipline dictates if you gun has a safety, it be deactivated/activated each time you go from ready to presentation and back. It should be the same motion either way.

The saftey should enage whether you are going to engage in a DA pull or an SA pull to maintain this discipline. This removes the need to keep track of when to release or apply the safety.

 

[Cliff47]

No such thing as a dumb question about CZ.

If you want to have the hammer down, and the manual safety engaged, consider one of the Tanfoglio models (TZ75 Series 88 comes to mind first, Springfield P9, AT84, Witness) with the frame-mounted safety.

Be warned, CZs (and the clones) are habit-forming.