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[jmr40]

You can't count on trees stopping a bullet. Depending on the density of the vegetation a bullet might not go over 50 yards but could go 500.

I hunt public land almost exclusively, but where I live it is all mountainous or at least hilly. I would pass on a shot that would not go into the ground if I were to miss or if the bullet passed through an animal. Fortunately, in this terrain almost any shot will hit the ground shortly after passing by, or through an animal.

If hunting flat woods this is a lot harder. And why an elevated stand is a good idea, that way you are shooting into the ground.

 

[PWC]

How far will a bullet travel in the woods?

Just as far as it would out of the woods, or until it hits something to stop it, whichever comes first.

"Do you feel lucky punk?"

 

[wombat13]

What a show case of sloppy, binary thinking in this thread. You can’t be 100% sure that a tree will stop a bullet, so that means thousands of trees between you and a shooter WILL NOT stop a bullet. How do people go through life not understanding probabilities? These comments are effectively the same as saying “you can’t count on your emergency parachute saving your life, so just ignore it.”

You can’t count on your airbag saving your life in an collision, so ignore the airbag service light when it comes on? Of course you still need to keep your eyes on the road, maintain a safe following distance behind other cars, maintain your brakes, replace your tires when they’re worn, think twice about driving late at night on Friday and Saturday when more drunks are on the road, etc. But, if you are smart, you will also get your airbag repaired when the light comes on. Can you count on it saving you if all the other precautions fail? No, but you’ll have a higher probability of surviving.

 

[Chuck R.]

It kind of reminds me of working up ACAs (Air Space Coordination Area) for attack aviation back in the early days. An ACA is 3 dimensional "box" over a target area which we can't fire indirect through.

We'd perform cheetah flips getting multiple ACAs set up and in the system, making sure we can still engage with indirect by verifying are min/max ords (artillery trajectory in elevation) so we don't violate the ACA. The aircraft then have to stay at a certain elevation window on their final approach to the TGTs, thus giving the Attack aviation guys and the close air support guys a warm fuzzy that their attack avenues are "safe" because we're shooting over and under them. We then have to sort out which units can still engage with indirect without violating the "box". In theory we wouldn't have to turn off or shift effective indirect fires for CAS and attack helos, thereby achieving mass.

It can be a pretty frustrating endeavor, counting mortar sections (with high Max ords) there's a chit load of projectiles from multiple sources happening. We were working on an ever changing plan one night at about 0300 and were on version 6 or so, when the S3 looks at me and says; "it really is a big sky, with little bullets" commenting on the odds of actually hitting an aircraft with an artillery projectile. Which was pretty funny at 0300. Nowadays it's all done by computers.

In theory everybody does their best, but there's no guarantees. Life = Risk

 

[wbm]

How do people go through life not understanding probabilities?

Delusion?

 

[Robert]

Well, since the OP took his ball and went home, I guess there is nothing left to say...