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Those of you do not like 9mm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by GunLvrNLearner, Sep 14, 2008.

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  1. GunLvrNLearner

    GunLvrNLearner Member

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    I have seen several who say they do not like 9mm....if you are one of those then why not?

    And what semi caliber do you like and why?

    Thanks
     
  2. MarshallDodge

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    I never said I didn't like 9mm's I just said I didn't like Glocks. :p :neener:

    Seriously, I think this is just another way to start a caliber war. :rolleyes:

    9mm is what it is, you have to run at least a +P and you have to hope that it expands. Most of the time I carry a 1911 in 45 but if I go small then I carry a 9mm and am comfortable with both.

    If you want a one stop shot, you have to penetrate the skull or the spine. Not sure if I can guarantee that with either one under stress but I practice to improve the odds. I hope you do the same.

    500 S&W Magnum is the best. :D
     
  3. Bowhunter57

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    GunLvrNLearner,
    Trying to start a "caliber war"? :scrutiny:
    Or are you attempting to choose one or the other for yourself?

    If a particular caliber is working well for an individual, than that person should stick with that caliber....no matter of the "why".
    I have a good friend with plenty of experience in the Marine Corps (Iraq and Afganistan), that swears by the 45acp.
    However, my neighbor has 3 tours of duty in Vietnam as a Navy Seal and he wouldn't have any pistol over his 9mm.
    Two different weapons, two different men with two different opinions, yet they both have experiences to back their weapon choices.

    The laws of physics dictate a larger slug will transfer more energy to a particular target. However, if the target (living target) isn't mortally wounded, simply knocking them down, may not "cure" or stop the situation.

    Practise and shot placement are critical. One can not be attained without the other. :)

    Good hunting, Bowhunter57
     
  4. GunLvrNLearner

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    Not critical of anyone who doesnt like 9mm...just curious of reasons and then what semi caliber they prefer and why
     
  5. lee n. field

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    It's out there abundantly. Just search on "9mm vs 45" or some variation. You'll get a zillion hits.

    Everyone has an opinion, just like everyone has a, well, anyway.

    I tend to be caliber agnostic. Buy what you want, shoot it. If it doesn't do what you want, sell it off and get what you think (in your present more enlightened state) will.

    At this point in time, I've never owned a 9x19. I may in the future. (Great, one more cartridge to accumulate, handload for, etc.)

    I don't see what 9mm does that .40 does not do better, with the exception of very small autos like the Keltec PF-9, where .40 is going to be just too much.
     
  6. MMCSRET

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    I love the 9MM, I just love every other handgun caliber and cartridge more!!!!!
     
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    I like the 9 mil, I like the .45 a LOT more, and I don't dislike the .38 sp.
     
  8. papajohn

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    I grew up studying ballistics charts, worshipped at the altar of velocity, suffered from "Magnumitis" for years, and while I've owned most accepted calibers for personal defense, I've never owned a 9mm. Probably never will.

    Why? Simple personal preference. Anecdotal stuff. I grew up reading Elmer, Skeeter, Cooper, and they all liked boolits. Not, as someone called them, "boullettes". Is a 38 bigger than a 9? If you think .002" is enough to matter, yes. I understand that the 9mm was hampered for 80 years with lousy bullet design, and that the new stuff is good stuff, as good as anything else its size. So the 9 is fully the equal of the 38, better in some loadings. But I still don't want one.

    Maybe it's because the 9mm has a tapered case, is harder to reload, and more finicky. Maybe it just doesn't LOOK like I think bullets should look. Maybe the Parabellum thing bothers me, never cared for the name. Nor Luger, either. It doesn't handle heavy bullets well, accuracy in some guns is iffy or worse, and while it might expand, it might not. It also tends to overpenetrate in human targets with FMJ bullets.

    Those are my excuses, and I'm sticking to them. :neener:

    PJ
     
  9. Treo

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    I don't dislike 9mm per sé, but I've had 3 9mm pistols ( Taurus PT-92, S&W model 915 & a Llama 9mm {that I would hate regardless of what caliber it was })
    that I couldn't stand.

    I carry a .40 but I'm not sure if it's the cartridge I like or the fact that it's sitting in a CZ75B. DW carries a 9x18 CZ 82 that I love , so I think its more the gun than the caliber.

    Maybe I should buy a 75B in 9mm and see. :)
     
  10. Superfly3176

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    Personal preference, but like someone above said when your nervous because you have an intruder, and your life is threatened I'd like my bullets to do as much damage as possible without having to worry about shot placement.

    Everything I've read is that the .45 is marginally better. Bigger wound channels, etc. Plus my dad has one and I've loved the caliber since I was 16, so it's a legacy thing I guess.
     
  11. Walkalong

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    I could never fall in love with the 9MM, but I shot plenty of it, especially these days with ammo/bullet prices the way they are. I always loved the low BOOM and the recoil of the .45 vs the 9MM. I love the .38 Super, but I just like the 9MM.

    I can say one thing, shooting a 9MM AR is tons of fun. :D
     
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    I've heard that caliber doesn't matter and it's all about shot placement....... so I carry a .177 pellet gun.
     
  13. Treo

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    There was a guy here in Colorado Springs who got in some deep doo doo for killing a deer in his front yard W/ .177 pellet rifle.

    The columist from the Gazette ( Rich Tosches ) actually called it a " Deadly .177 caliber rifle" which I suppose it technically was.
     
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    I have a Argentine Sistema 1911A1 in and now a S&W 910 and I like the 9mm better, can control it better than .45 for one, two, ammo is cheaper for the 9mm than the .45., three, the 910 doesn't hurt me when I fire it like the Sistema does, due to the hammer spur.

    The arguements for the .45 are, it does of course make a bigger hole, two, most collectors worth have a 1911 of some kind, three it was the only pistol I had for a long time during some financial difficulties, so some sentimental value there. With that said, both calibers coexist in my house and wouldn't hesitate to rely on either for defense.
     
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    There's no way to conclusively prove anything one way or the other regarding 9mm+P+, 40S&W, or 45ACP. Therefore, all this debate boils down to a matter of opinion.

    One thing is for certain, if you are shooting a 45ACP, you can upgrade to 45 super fairly easily and then there'd be zero debate...45super wins hands down.
     
  16. Gunsby_Blazen

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    I LIKE ALL BULLETS!!!
    I am just a range guy though who likes to mix it up....
     
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    I like 9mm for it's price, but I don't have one yet. If only .45 acp was as cheap... :(

    Only round I don't care for is .25 auto :p
     
  18. Superfly3176

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    I think that it depends on your gun. The discussion is straight on caliber, and I don't think you should compare feels of two different guns because one hurts when it fires. I put a bunch of rounds through my new XD and it's more comfortable then alot of 9mm's I've shot.

    In general I think standard 1911 styled guns are bulky and uncomfortable.
     
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    I don't have a problem with 9mm, but it's not my preference. For a backup on an ankle or in a pocket, etc, I like 9mm fine. It's a rare occasion that I carry anything smaller than a full size gun though, and in that case it's going to be a .45.
     
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    VHinch Wrote:
    VHinch, I would be interested to hear which 9mm pistols you have carried in an ankle holster or a pocket.
     
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    Ankle - Kahr Mk9, Kahr P9, Glock 26
    Pocket - Kahr Mk9
     
  22. CZF

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    After owning .45 ACP and 10mms for years. The .45 is a weak sister.

    The stopping power over a 9mm is greater to a degree with a
    .40 or .45, but the 10mm is the ultimate winner for shear
    power.
     
  23. kcshooter

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    Wha?
    Bulky?
    I don't think there's many thinner .45's out there.
     
  24. Walkalong

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    That always kills me. Then they talk about something like a Beretta 9MM. :banghead: :)
     
  25. skers69

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    I can tell you that once upon a time I was a huge 9mm hater...circa 1988 till 2005. What changed....well ammo for +9mm and regular pressure 9mm bonded rounds have improved the bullet a ton and it took me a while and some testing to figure it out. And I have found a couple of guns that seem perfect for the 9mm...CZ PCR and G26.

    Now I can understand why someone would only shoot 45's or 357mags, I use to be that guy. It all comes down to personal preference. I hope this tread stays open for a while...because I do like to see others opinions.
     
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