thoughts on .40 cal sub 2000?

[12guagecody]

what do you guys think of the sub 2000? i shoot and load a lot of 40, im looking to add another carbine to my collection, not sure if i want another Ar, variety can be fun right? it just seems like a super handy little rifle with decent punch with the 40, light and easy to hike with. what experience do you guys have with it?

 

[Comrade Mike]

Personally I'd get it in 9mm and get the Glock magazine adaptor. More capacity, lighter ammunition ect.

But that's just me, I'm one of those .40 haters.

 

[jr_watkins]

If you can get the sub 2K in the same magazine you already have, it's a great addition. You'll get an extra 200 FPS or so from the carbine length barrel. Good stuff!

 

[mgkdrgn]

They are fun ... but not easy to find ... and when you do be prepared to pay 2X+ msrp because the supply is so short.

How short you say?

I'm an FFL, and I just got my first 3 Sub 2K's about a month ago ... after waiting -3- years-.

Sold all 3 in less than a week for $600+ each.

 

[Zoogster]

Are these overbuilt enough and with a long enough action to be converted to 10mm Auto?
I saw something like that done with the hipoint carbines.

If so I would take a 40!

 

[rhinoh]

There is no "glock magazine adapter". They come in a few versions, Glock is one of them and supposedly the most common.
I have the 9 and the .40. Like them both for what they are. A fold up rifle that fits in a computer bag.

 

[ball3006]

I have one with Glock mags. I don't really like it because it is a pain to shoot with muffs on, they hit the stock, and the front sight sucks big time. It is red plastic and very hard to see. Otherwise, it is a really ammo hog....chris3

 

[12guagecody]

i hand load a ton of 40, carry a p226 40, i should try to hunt one down that will use my mags

 

[candr44]

The Sub 2000 is a lot of fun to shoot and well worth buying but there are a few things I don't like about it. Its hard to clean inside the receiver, there's no last shot bolt hold open, and the factory sights suck. I improved the sights on my rifle with a quick disconnect red dot sight and the other two draw backs don't out weigh the positives.

Its very accurtate and has very light recoil. A 17 round magazine goes quickly but all my shots consistantly hit a soda can at 50 yards. Its also very easy to store in the safe and cary in a computer case. I would very much regret selling this rifle especially since I will never find another one for the $250 I payed for mine.

 

[ball3006]

Even though I am not happy with mine, as posted above, I keep it because I carry it in my motorcycle saddlebag along with my Glock.....chris3

 

[Giterboosted]

I love mine, depending on ammo selection it reaches low end 10mm velocities or so I'm told, haven't tested myself, but it's accurate and shoots very well

 

[Ed Ames]

Do you want to be talked out of or in to one?

If you do the math you'll find the 16" .40 has more energy at 100 yards than a 4" 9 mm pistol at the muzzle. You'll also find that it's fairly anemic compared to a 6" barrel .357.

I think it's fairly useless except in rather narrow circumstances. I would not buy a non-folding semi auto pistol caliber carbine (like the Ruger, Marlin, etc.), and I'm not sure the folding feature is worth much (folded, it isn't that much smaller than an AR with the pins popped), but my .40 sub2k isn't for sale either. I'd suggest a .357 lever gun is more practical if you want a pistol caliber carbine.

The only time mine has really come in handy is when some friends asked me to house-sit and I wanted to ride my motorcycle to their place.... Toss it in a saddlebag along with some clothes and have something a little better than a pistol or H&R single-shot.

It is fun as a plinker.

Good luck finding one. I've seen an RFB, I've seen a KSG, but I haven't seen a sub2k...not since the one I bought 5 years ago.