Keltec sub 2000 9mm

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I want a kel tec sub 2000 I think.. I am 100% confident in the company, please do not try to persuade me otherwise. What I need is actual experiences with this carbine, and range reports for accuracy, as well as a price range. Thanks!

PS : I want the Glock model if that makes a difference
 
I lucked out and snagged one from from a fellow member of my gun club for $300. Mine is 9mm and takes Glock mags.

I really like mine. Small, light and reliable. It weighs 4-1/2lbs and the trigger is nothing to write home about. My sights were off and needing adjusting but they work well now. I would like to change the front sights out for something more durable but it isn't a pressing matter. I am an old blind geezer and I can hold a 3" or 4" pattern at 50 yds. I haven't tried it at 100yds because I can't see the target well enough. I am sure someone with better eyes could hold much better groups than I manage.

Mine has never had problems feeding or ejecting. I handload so I haven't tried a wide range of ammo through it. My hollow points and fmj's have never had a hiccup. It is very easy to clean and lube. Basic blowback with a stiff spring in the tube. I have several 33 rd mags as well as 15rd and 10rd. It has been reliable in all of them.

It is a fun gun to shoot and you can go through some ammo quickly. I like to use it as a truck gun or it will fit in the bags on my bike. I bought it becase I like the interchangeability with Glock pistols.

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I would echo the same sentiments, they are accurate, compact, dependable, versatile, affordable. I have bought 4 of them over the years 1 9mm and 3 40's. I gave a 40 to my dad and another to one of my sons. Highly recommend them and don't really think they have an equal in their niche.
 
I love it. i want it for a truck gun and to keep compact and ready for action in my tack room. looks like a great camp gun as well!
 
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i have a HC S&W.....what ever you get, give it a couple of hundred rounds to break in.. mine has been 100% on all mags i have tried....megar 10 and 12, s&w 15, even garbage national 30's.....great truck/boat gun.....gary
 
Like my wife's 9mm sub 2000 so much ,may have to buy another one for myself.
 
I have one on order now in 40 S&W (~$325). I've considered ordering one in 9mm, but I'll save that for an AR I think.

Price should be in the $350 range. I spoke to Kel Tec a few months ago and they had a problem with one of the machines and were just starting to manufacture these again. If you want one NOW and don't mind paying a little extra, Gunbroker has them all the time. The 9mm ones go for a little bit more than the 40 S&W.

They make them in a Glock 19(if you can find one) magazine or Glock 17 magazine configuration. I'd recommend the Glock 17. The 19 magazine model my pinky finger hangs off the edge which bothers me. Because of the way the rifle is set up, the G17 Sub 2000 grip is more like the size of the an actual Glock 19, and the G19 Sub 2000 grip is more like the size of a Glock 26. The G19 and G17 designation are really just saying the smallest size magazine it will take. Hope all that ramble didn't confuse you.

I think they look like great rifles for their intended purpose. I plan to keep mine in my trunk, and of course shoot it a lot!
 
Love mine and it would be one of the last guns I give up.

Accuracy is limited by sights because its not designed for target shooting...

Reliability is great for me so far even with my shoddy reloads so far no failures(~800 rounds).

I think you got what you needed I dare you to find someone who owns one and enjoy owning it.
 
I like the gun. I did a few upgrades, created a cheek rest out of a piece of hose. they sell them made but cannot tell the difference. Also I would put a rail in case you want a light or something.
Out of the box expect very nice accuracy. A few stopages with the less powerfull ammo as the spring is very hard but this gets better with long break in and some good ammo.
Will love this thing.

I have several glocks in 9mm and share all types of mags so makes this a nice integrated system.

I wished they made one in .357 SIG, my favorite. Probably would be one of the best rounds out of a carbine like the fast 9mm. it is all about speed.

At 100yards expect many head side hits and centermass with the standard sights. I trimmed them down a little as they are a bit coarse, that's all.
 
TheBurns,

I think gpr ment HC (High capacity) Smith & Wesson series 59 magazines.
I have several S&W factory makes in 15 round.

I've been thinking of getting a Sub 2000 for some time. I'm glad I read this thread. You guys are really tempting me to get one in S&W 59 as well.
 
Not sure but I think HC means hard chrome. Have only seen a few of the sub 2000 with hard.chrome but they look good. I have 2 in the glock 9mm and love them.
 
I bought one in 2010, first 100 rounds 7 rounds jammed (all of them stovepiped). I figured that it was just the break-in for the gun I tried another 300 with about 1 from every magazine jamming. All this time I was using the original 10 round magazine and winchester target ammo. You couldn't give me one of those damn things.
 
Love mine, thousands of round thru it. 9mm glock 17. i shoot it around 50 yards with good accuracy. son hit a gallon milk jug at 170 yards on third shot walking it in. even "thinking" about a glock to share mags, and i dont like glocks. get you one!
 
Mine is a G19 compatible model, it works great, shoots precisely enough (sights aren't the greatest, trigger isn't the greatest) and wins me "cheap carbine shootouts" every time I run into someone with a HiPoint on the range, folds into a small laptop bag or my bike's saddlebags, and is in general a pretty good little blaster that I keep in a go-bag for "social unrest".
It eats all ammo, so long as it is in a Glock factory mag (it doesn't like the aftermarket magazines I've tried so far, I just get the Glock mags from Midway when they go on sale)

If I could:
1- tolerate a Glock's grip
2- put better sights on (Tech Sights, listen up!)
... I'd have the perfect PCC companion to a handgun. As it stands, there's nothing better as a semiauto PCC on the market.
 
3 simple things as some others noted...

A) Can research more options but the factory sight can be trimmed with a file or simple sandpaper to a knife sharp edge that becomes very fine and the system is very accurate for what it is so you do not need red-dots and other devices although do not hurt if you like them you can get a foldable mount.

B) Some ammo might have a hard time with the spring that is really beefed up so the solution is to change to a little more punch ammo, break in properly and if the solution doesn't go away contact keltec or cut 1/4" of the spring an include a buffer that is not a bad idea anyway. A rubber join from ACE store will do as buffer.

C) Take a piece of black hose and cut a generous slot into it and then when cleaning drive it down so your cheek rests in the rubber. if done properly you cannot tell the difference between this and the aftermarket slide in rubbery cheek rest.

Total cost: under $2, no aftermarket needed.
Total fun: priceless.

Too much stuff that prevents the system from folding and make it heavy and you will be defeating the original purpose of this system that is versatility, light weight and easy to conceal and carry.
 
I have one and really like it. It is a good gun for the money. That said I don't think I would ever mistake it for anything other than a $350 or so gun.

Mine has been very reliable as have all the ones I've had experience with.

As to accuracy:

I have never shot mine of a bench. That's not what I got it for. I can hit 8" plates at 100 yards off hand with out much trouble. The sights are crude and the trigger pull is pretty terrible. I have never felt hampered by its accuracy but I tend to shoot it at 100 yards or less as I do with my other PCCs.

I really like the fact that I can put a 33 round mag in it, fold it in half, and put it in a laptop bag or backpack with 4 more 33 round mags. It is also nice that it will take the same G19 or 17 mags I have for my glock pistols.

Its a nice companion to a glock, a solid PCC, and a good buy for the money.
 
Been thinking about one of these in .40 S&W for a long time. I want it as a truck gun. But I have been trying to figure out how hard it would be to get it to work with H&K USP mags and which one I'd need to start with. Otherwise I guess I'd just get it in Glock for the magazine capacity.

Also just as a side thought if bought in the .40 S&W does anyone think it could be converted to 10MM safely? Blow back action so add a buffer and increase the weight of the spring, Rechamber to 10MM, any thoughts?
 
They are reliable and accurate. They are compact and easy to transport. Since they are short, they really hug up close to your face when shouldered, but that is the only downside IMO.

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azwizard:
KTOG would be a better place to ask about rechambering ... I wouldn't do so, I'd just get the hottest 9x19 or .40s&w ammo I could.

magazine compatibility might be more flexible if the magazines are the same dimensions as one of the offered types, you'd have to cut out and remount the magazine release button on the grip, which might or might not work with the USP's magazine release type (which I'm a huge fan of) ... or perhaps you could transplant a USP's mag release into the grip ... i know that the non-Glock grips can be swapped out for other non-Glock grips ... again, a question for KTOG, where the real experts are.

Girodin said:
I have never shot mine of a bench. That's not what I got it for. I can hit 8" plates at 100 yards off hand with out much trouble. The sights are crude and the trigger pull is pretty terrible. I have never felt hampered by its accuracy but I tend to shoot it at 100 yards or less as I do with my other PCCs.
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To be honest, shooting past 100 yards with any PCC never enters into my mind.
If the OP wants to shoot past 100 yards (or have pinpoint precision at 100y) then a sub2000 isn't for you, without heavy modification (again, listen up, nice people at Tech Sights!) ... either adding better iron sights or mounting an optic in a way that may remove the ability to fold.

CoRoMo:
Probably, the front sight is also part of the locking system to keep the gun folded, so you'll lose some function if you move it back.
If you really want to mount a suppressor, you'd be better off mounting an optic as well, and maybe pinning the gun into the unfolded position somehow, as folding it with a mounted suppressor would be less than effective.
On the other hand, I remember an Oleg Volk picture of a SBR/Supressed sub2000 that was interesting from a while back ...
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That's how to do it, as far as I'm concerned.

I went the other way with mine, I put on the compact fore-end, which makes the gun look a bit spindly when unfolded, but I wanted to make it smaller/lighter and was never going to use the mount on the bottom of the standard fore-end, nor was I about to put on a quad-rail to mount my cupholder to ... so I tossed the compact fore-end in the cart when I was ordering other goodies from the KT website.
 
CoRoMo,
In order to keep the original locking system it locks with the original front sight to keep it folded. I think you can do it but though, I believe you can cut enough of the sight base that still you can mount it back and then have enough of thread to put a quick brake with thread for a suppressor.
I would try cutting all the way to the first rib in that sight post and no go any further. Beyond there the sight will be weakened to a point it will be ineffective. I am guessing though but the good thing if you mess up keltec will send you a new post very inexpensively, even free who knows.
This will allow for easy mount on/off and keep the "foldability" option. This is what is the most attractive and really distinctive feature on this system IMO.
cheers,
E.
 
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