It didn't to me either, that's why I don't wet tumble
Thoughts on Lee Classic Turret Press?
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GBExpat
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Why?
... but you would be putting them in the VCC prior to depriming them so the VCC time removes nothing from the primer pockets.
What purpose would this serve vis-à-vis the primer pockets?
It is because I don't want dirty cases on my press or in my dies.
I don't so much mind my own cases, but at Action Pistol competitions you always end up with other people's brass or brass that has been laying in the dirt a while. The sand and grit in the dry months isn't so bad, but the mud during the wet months really gets nasty.
I'm not usually a clean primer pocket freak. That is why wet tumbling isn't a high priority.
I usually just throw my 9mm cases into the VCC for a couple of hours and store them that way until I'm ready to deprime, size, and prime them
I don't so much mind my own cases, but at Action Pistol competitions you always end up with other people's brass or brass that has been laying in the dirt a while. The sand and grit in the dry months isn't so bad, but the mud during the wet months really gets nasty.
I'm not usually a clean primer pocket freak. That is why wet tumbling isn't a high priority.
I usually just throw my 9mm cases into the VCC for a couple of hours and store them that way until I'm ready to deprime, size, and prime them
GBExpat
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Aaaahhhh, you are referring to truly dirty/gritty/muddy cases ... something with which I very rarely deal and then in only tiny QTYs. At worst, some of mine are a bit sooty.
Now I understand, thanks!
The few times I have had to deal with muddy/dirty cases (I keep a small growing collection of lost-cases-found from my backyard range that have sometimes been "outside" for over a year) I have, first, hosed them off in a bucket and then let them dry before doing anything else with them.
Now I understand, thanks!
The few times I have had to deal with muddy/dirty cases (I keep a small growing collection of lost-cases-found from my backyard range that have sometimes been "outside" for over a year) I have, first, hosed them off in a bucket and then let them dry before doing anything else with them.
Ah, we were just viewing from different points.
The last match I worked, I came home with about 1k cases...9mm, .40, .45, .38...and I doubt even 10% were mine. Some were just sooty, but some looked like they'd been exposed to sea air for a couple of months
The last match I worked, I came home with about 1k cases...9mm, .40, .45, .38...and I doubt even 10% were mine. Some were just sooty, but some looked like they'd been exposed to sea air for a couple of months
tcoz
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Not for pistol. For rifle, I do a second tumble for an hour after sizing and decapping just to remove the lube. This cleans the primer pockets pretty well but I also clean them with a metal primer pocket brush attached to my power trimmer. The only reason I do it is because it helps assure the primers will be seated to the correct depth.
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AV8TOR
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Thanks, I am needing to replace my old RCBS Partner press and it is down to the Lee Cast Turret and the Lee Cast Classic Single (same cost). I like what I see with the turret especially as I only load 9mm and 45ACP. I however use a Lee Perfect Powder Measure and being on a budget don't want to have to replace that too. Besides I got the leaking fixed and it s pretty accurate with Silhouette and w231 powders. I use a RCBS Universal primer tool so does anyone know it I can mount the powder drop bracket on the right side bolt that attaches the Lee Primer tool and just dump over a funnel attached to the expansion die?
HardwarePro
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This old thread describes how to do it:Lee Powder Measure on LCT
If you are determined to prime off press, and to use the perfect powder measure, you probably would be happier with a single stage press. There would really be very little time saving advantage to the LCT for you.
I like and use the LCT, but I prime on press and use the new auto drum PM.
snuffy
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I had a PPM, it went with my son for him to set-up his reloading room. I may be way off, but aren't the threads on the bottom of the PPM a fit for the threads inside the top of a lee powder-through-expander dies? Simply screw it directly into the expander die. That would allow you to charge each case at the top of the expander stroke when loading on the LCT,(Lee Classic Turret). You'd simply have to remember to do it each time.
I realize you don't want to spend anymore $$$, but the addition of the Lee safety prime would make the LCT perform like a junior progressive, just like it was designed to do. Combined with the auto advance it allows you to leave the case in the shell holder, saving time.
AV8TOR
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The thread is different on the PPM. Many good points but had two surgery this year and co-pay is a B$#@* so only getting what I think I need right now. It will give me flexibility for the future, or until I sell off some stuff.
Toprudder
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Somebody makes an adapter that allows the PPM to mount to the powder-through expander. I've seen them on Amazon.
AV8TOR
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Yep right Here that is my plan to start out with. It's not perfect but neither is the measure. It requires you to hold it with both hands because the primer measure sits tall and the insert into the expansion die is so short.
Is that with using the powder measure riser?
https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-auto-disk-riser-90041.html
I actually made one like that, and with the o-rings, it stays in place. I use the riser.
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Dudedog
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I think you will be much happier with the LCT loading pistol than a SS.
You can pick up a Lee autodrum or Lee Prodisk for about $40. If you have to order I would suggest getting the riser as well.
I have the "Deluxe" turret ant have loaded 10000s of round on it.
I am happy with my Lee equipment.
You can pick up a Lee autodrum or Lee Prodisk for about $40. If you have to order I would suggest getting the riser as well.
I have the "Deluxe" turret ant have loaded 10000s of round on it.
I am happy with my Lee equipment.
evan price
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It took 19 posts for a Dillon fan to jump into a Lee thread and bash Lee? My, the Dillon fans must be asleep at the switch!
For the price point, Lee gear is the best value. I've personally broken very little. And what did break Lee replaced, no questions, with a phone call.
I took out the auto index also and run manual advance.
I have a Pro1000 for volume, and use the turret for rifle and low volume handgun.
For the price point, Lee gear is the best value. I've personally broken very little. And what did break Lee replaced, no questions, with a phone call.
I took out the auto index also and run manual advance.
I have a Pro1000 for volume, and use the turret for rifle and low volume handgun.
whughett
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Ditto on the Dillon. Wore my 550 out, literally and Dillon rebuilt it for the price of me sending it out.
I have a Lee Turret price for black powder loads, low volume reloading. Helped a friend set up his Pro 1000, absolute misery. If you can keep up with a 550 or 650 you are indeed a Lee man.
Ah, but a Glock fan would have been quicker to the draw!
Dudedog
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Same here.
Like to clean it a bit before it sees the size die.
AV8TOR
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If you use the Auto Drum powder drop with the LCT and do not use the primer feed do you still need the riser on the expansion die?
Is the Auto Drum a better solution over the Auto Disk? I like the ability to work in between loads if desired but am more concerned about smooth function.
Is the Auto Drum a better solution over the Auto Disk? I like the ability to work in between loads if desired but am more concerned about smooth function.
Elkins45
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I'm generally a fan of the turret press except that I hate the way it handles spent primers. I usually deprime separately because I prime off the press, then use the turret to charge and seat.
I don't use the auto index feature. Never did, but if I primed on the press I would. All of my dies are in the older three hole turrets because I owned a Pro 1000 before the turret. I have since learned that the die height is different between the two presses so there's no speed advantage unless you have a set for each press. Because of this I bought a four hole conversion kit but I just haven't gotten around to installing it yet.
I don't use the auto index feature. Never did, but if I primed on the press I would. All of my dies are in the older three hole turrets because I owned a Pro 1000 before the turret. I have since learned that the die height is different between the two presses so there's no speed advantage unless you have a set for each press. Because of this I bought a four hole conversion kit but I just haven't gotten around to installing it yet.
Av8tor, yes you're not using the Safety Primer, yes, you should be able to get away with no riser.
The Auto-Drum uses 1 diameter cavity, instead of multible, mostly smaller diameter holes of the Pro-Disk. Larger flake powders will fall better. And you can micro-adjust the drum style.
The Auto-Drum uses 1 diameter cavity, instead of multible, mostly smaller diameter holes of the Pro-Disk. Larger flake powders will fall better. And you can micro-adjust the drum style.
snuffy
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Elkins, you're talking about the older deluxe turret, or even older 3 hole turret, apples to oranges. The classic turret's handle the spent primers down through the hollow ram into a hose with a cap on the end, or leave the cap off, direct it into a bucket. I leave the cap on, when it gets full, I pull the cap off dumping the primers into my scrap brass bucket.
Lee vastly improved his turret design when he brought out the classic. Some call it the classic CAST turret but that confuses it with the new classic cast single stage.
It's been stated before but with the new auto drum or the disc measure AND the safety prime in auto advance mode you can quickly turn out a lot of ammo.
Short answer is Yes. I have been using the auto disk for about three years and have loaded many thousands of rounds with it. I have no major complaints with it at all. I use both the disks and the adjustable charge bar. I read all the reviews and comments about the new auto drum and decided to give it a try, not because I was unhappy witht the auto disk, but because I just wanted to. I have been using it for a couple of weeks now and have loaded both 9mm and .223 with it. I am very pleased with it and glad that I gave it a try. It has been very consistent with the drops for me as long as you are consistent with how you operate the press. I am using the Lee classic turret by the way. There is no spilt/leaked powder and it is very convenient to adjust or dial in a load. Mind you, I never had a big problem with the auto disk leaking powder, but there was some that would squeak out over the course of a loading session.
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