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Thoughts on the War on Terrorism,by Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
by Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
Take the time to read this....VERY POWERFUL! A MUST READ!!!!
No matter what your stance is on the war in Iraq, this is a very powerful, and
extremely well-written piece that kept running through my mind long after I
finished reading it, and it will no doubt stay in my mind for a very long time!
Please take the time to read the attached essay by Dr. Chong. It is without a
doubt the most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War
in Iraq. If you have any doubts please open your mind to his essay and give it
a fair evaluation.
I had no idea who Dr. Chong is or the source of these thoughts... so when I
received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I
did a "Google search" on the Doctor and found him to be a retired Air Force
Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San
Antonio. So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs in California, and
these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about! (the same
Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)
Subject: Muslims, terrorists and the USA....A different spin on Iraq war.
This WAR is for REAL!
Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through
it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we
know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very
few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize
what losing really means.
First, let's examine a few basics:
1. When did the threat to us start? Many will say September 11, 2001. The
answer as far as the United State is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to
September 2001, with the following attacks on us:
* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.
(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist
attacks worldwide).
2. Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened
during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and
Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no
provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors,
Presidents Ford or Carter.
3. Who were the attackers? In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out
by Muslims.
4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.
5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful? Hopefully, but that is really not
material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of
Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was
also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the
administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians
killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).
(see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm )
Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six
million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything
other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the
Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of
exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any
others.
Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all
in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point
here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone
from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no
protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are
fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us
"infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice
was shut up or die?
6. So who are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim
terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this
conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly
recognize and articulate who you are fighting.
So with that background, now to the two major questions:
1. Can we lose this war?
2. What does losing really mean?
If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions
We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major
reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the
second question - What does losing mean?
It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging
our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post
Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.
What losing really means is:
We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not
subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not
just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an
increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was
clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were neutered and submissive to
them.
We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of
reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot
help them.
They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be
increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't
matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from
Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told
them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done.
Spain is finished.
The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see
the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they
can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too
late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!
If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all
vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they
were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone
else?
The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely
committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise
committed to winning at any cost.
Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we
recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our
thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to
win.
So, how can we lose the war?
Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is,
defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and
really digging in and lending full support to the war effort if we are united,
there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way
that we can win!
Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and
death seriousness of this situation.
President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although
all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between
17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that
sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration,
we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become
accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights
temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.
And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights
during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added
many more since then.
Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?
No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political
Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean,
lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your
head.
Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration
that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add
that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't
recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to
the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it
does great damage to our cause.
Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media
regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what
I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few
Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the
type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off
buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise
murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.
And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type of
enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred
corpses through the streets of Iraq.
And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing
videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American
prisoners they held.
Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have
thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim
prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the
streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.
Can this be for real?
The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of
Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and
understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and
death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing
can.
To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue
makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious
to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can
survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our
politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are
absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into
which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.
Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That
translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United State, but throughout
the world.
We are the last bastion of defense.
We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is
valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are
so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those
who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat
anything bad in the world!
We can't!
If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no
other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.
And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom
of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal
rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women,
or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of
the world.
This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we
will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman
Empire . If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written
or read.
If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take
over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the
Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the
established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves,
over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and
keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external
military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct
piece by politically correct piece.
And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide that
they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once
they are in power.
They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start
brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses.
Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful
Muslims"?
I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united,
there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions
in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and
will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do
whatever you can to preserve it.
After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our
children, our grandchildren, our country and the world
Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that include the
Politicians and media of our country and the free world!
Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our "leaders"
in Congress ought to read it, too. There are those that find fault with our
country, but it is obvious to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we
must UNITE!
If you would like to see who this fellow is go to this Air Force web sight and
look him up. http://www.af.mil/bios/alpha.asp?alpha=C
by Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
Take the time to read this....VERY POWERFUL! A MUST READ!!!!
No matter what your stance is on the war in Iraq, this is a very powerful, and
extremely well-written piece that kept running through my mind long after I
finished reading it, and it will no doubt stay in my mind for a very long time!
Please take the time to read the attached essay by Dr. Chong. It is without a
doubt the most articulate and convincing writing I have read regarding the War
in Iraq. If you have any doubts please open your mind to his essay and give it
a fair evaluation.
I had no idea who Dr. Chong is or the source of these thoughts... so when I
received them, I almost deleted them - as well-written as they are. But then I
did a "Google search" on the Doctor and found him to be a retired Air Force
Surgeon of all things and past Commander of Wilford Hall Medical Center in San
Antonio. So he is real, is connected to Veterans affairs in California, and
these are his thoughts. They are worth reading and thinking about! (the same
Google search will direct you to some of his other thought-provoking writings.)
Subject: Muslims, terrorists and the USA....A different spin on Iraq war.
This WAR is for REAL!
Dr. Vernon Chong, Major General, USAF, Retired
Tuesday, July 12, 2005 To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through
it. Our country is now facing the most serious threat to its existence, as we
know it, that we have faced in your lifetime and mine (which includes WWII).
The deadly seriousness is greatly compounded by the fact that there are very
few of us who think we can possibly lose this war and even fewer who realize
what losing really means.
First, let's examine a few basics:
1. When did the threat to us start? Many will say September 11, 2001. The
answer as far as the United State is concerned is 1979, 22 years prior to
September 2001, with the following attacks on us:
* Iran Embassy Hostages, 1979;
* Beirut, Lebanon Embassy 1983;
* Beirut, Lebanon Marine Barracks 1983;
* Lockerbie, Scotland Pan-Am flight to New York 1988;
* First New York World Trade Center attack 1993;
* Dhahran, Saudi Arabia Khobar Towers Military complex 1996;
* Nairobi, Kenya US Embassy 1998;
* Dares Salaam, Tanzania US Embassy 1998;
* Aden, Yemen USS Cole 2000;
* New York World Trade Center 2001;
* Pentagon 2001.
(Note that during the period from 1981 to 2001 there were 7,581 terrorist
attacks worldwide).
2. Why were we attacked?
Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened
during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and
Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no
provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors,
Presidents Ford or Carter.
3. Who were the attackers? In each case, the attacks on the US were carried out
by Muslims.
4. What is the Muslim population of the World? 25%.
5. Isn't the Muslim Religion peaceful? Hopefully, but that is really not
material. There is no doubt that the predominately Christian population of
Germany was peaceful, but under the dictatorial leadership of Hitler (who was
also Christian), that made no difference. You either went along with the
administration or you were eliminated. There were 5 to 6 million Christians
killed by the Nazis for political reasons (including 7,000 Polish priests).
(see http://www.nazis.testimony.co.uk/7-a.htm )
Thus, almost the same number of Christians were killed by the Nazis, as the six
million holocaust Jews who were killed by them, and we seldom heard of anything
other than the Jewish atrocities. Although Hitler kept the world focused on the
Jews, he had no hesitancy about killing anyone who got in his way of
exterminating the Jews or of taking over the world - German, Christian or any
others.
Same with the Muslim terrorists. They focus the world on the US, but kill all
in the way -- their own people or the Spanish, French or anyone else. The point
here is that just like the peaceful Germans were of no protection to anyone
from the Nazis, no matter how many peaceful Muslims there may be, they are no
protection for us from the terrorist Muslim leaders and what they are
fanatically bent on doing -- by their own pronouncements -- killing all of us
"infidels." I don't blame the peaceful Muslims. What would you do if the choice
was shut up or die?
6. So who are we at war with?
There is no way we can honestly respond that it is anyone other than the Muslim
terrorists. Trying to be politically correct and avoid verbalizing this
conclusion can well be fatal. There is no way to win if you don't clearly
recognize and articulate who you are fighting.
So with that background, now to the two major questions:
1. Can we lose this war?
2. What does losing really mean?
If we are to win, we must clearly answer these two pivotal questions
We can definitely lose this war, and as anomalous as it may sound, the major
reason we can lose is that so many of us simply do not fathom the answer to the
second question - What does losing mean?
It would appear that a great many of us think that losing the war means hanging
our heads, bringing the troops home and going on about our business, like post
Vietnam. This is as far from the truth as one can get.
What losing really means is:
We would no longer be the premier country in the world. The attacks will not
subside, but rather will steadily increase. Remember, they want us dead, not
just quiet. If they had just wanted us quiet, they would not have produced an
increasing series of attacks against us, over the past 18 years. The plan was
clearly, for terrorist to attack us, until we were neutered and submissive to
them.
We would of course have no future support from other nations, for fear of
reprisals and for the reason that they would see, we are impotent and cannot
help them.
They will pick off the other non-Muslim nations, one at a time. It will be
increasingly easier for them. They already hold Spain hostage. It doesn't
matter whether it was right or wrong for Spain to withdraw its troops from
Iraq. Spain did it because the Muslim terrorists bombed their train and told
them to withdraw the troops. Anything else they want Spain to do will be done.
Spain is finished.
The next will probably be France. Our one hope on France is that they might see
the light and realize that if we don't win, they are finished too, in that they
can't resist the Muslim terrorists without us. However, it may already be too
late for France. France is already 20% Muslim and fading fast!
If we lose the war, our production, income, exports and way of life will all
vanish as we know it. After losing, who would trade or deal with us, if they
were threatened by the Muslims. If we can't stop the Muslims, how could anyone
else?
The Muslims fully know what is riding on this war, and therefore are completely
committed to winning, at any cost. We better know it too and be likewise
committed to winning at any cost.
Why do I go on at such lengths about the results of losing? Simple. Until we
recognize the costs of losing, we cannot unite and really put 100% of our
thoughts and efforts into winning. And it is going to take that 100% effort to
win.
So, how can we lose the war?
Again, the answer is simple. We can lose the war by "imploding." That is,
defeating ourselves by refusing to recognize the enemy and their purpose, and
really digging in and lending full support to the war effort if we are united,
there is no way that we can lose. If we continue to be divided, there is no way
that we can win!
Let me give you a few examples of how we simply don't comprehend the life and
death seriousness of this situation.
President Bush selects Norman Mineta as Secretary of Transportation. Although
all of the terrorist attacks were committed by Muslim men between
17 and 40 years of age, Secretary Mineta refuses to allow profiling. Does that
sound like we are taking this thing seriously? This is war! For the duration,
we are going to have to give up some of the civil rights we have become
accustomed to. We had better be prepared to lose some of our civil rights
temporarily or we will most certainly lose all of them permanently.
And don't worry that it is a slippery slope. We gave up plenty of civil rights
during WWII, and immediately restored them after the victory and in fact added
many more since then.
Do I blame President Bush or President Clinton before him?
No, I blame us for blithely assuming we can maintain all of our Political
Correctness, and all of our civil rights during this conflict and have a clean,
lawful, honorable war. None of those words apply to war. Get them out of your
head.
Some have gone so far in their criticism of the war and/or the Administration
that it almost seems they would literally like to see us lose. I hasten to add
that this isn't because they are disloyal. It is because they just don't
recognize what losing means. Nevertheless, that conduct gives the impression to
the enemy that we are divided and weakening. It concerns our friends, and it
does great damage to our cause.
Of more recent vintage, the uproar fueled by the politicians and media
regarding the treatment of some prisoners of war, perhaps exemplifies best what
I am saying. We have recently had an issue, involving the treatment of a few
Muslim prisoners of war, by a small group of our military police. These are the
type prisoners who just a few months ago were throwing their own people off
buildings, cutting off their hands, cutting out their tongues and otherwise
murdering their own people just for disagreeing with Saddam Hussein.
And just a few years ago these same type prisoners chemically killed
400,000 of their own people for the same reason. They are also the same type of
enemy fighters, who recently were burning Americans, and dragging their charred
corpses through the streets of Iraq.
And still more recently, the same type of enemy that was and is providing
videos to all news sources internationally, of the beheading of American
prisoners they held.
Compare this with some of our press and politicians, who for several days have
thought and talked about nothing else but the "humiliating" of some Muslim
prisoners -- not burning them, not dragging their charred corpses through the
streets, not beheading them, but "humiliating" them.
Can this be for real?
The politicians and pundits have even talked of impeachment of the Secretary of
Defense. If this doesn't show the complete lack of comprehension and
understanding of the seriousness of the enemy we are fighting, the life and
death struggle we are in and the disastrous results of losing this war, nothing
can.
To bring our country to a virtual political standstill over this prisoner issue
makes us look like Nero playing his fiddle as Rome burned -- totally oblivious
to what is going on in the real world. Neither we, nor any other country, can
survive this internal strife. Again I say, this does not mean that some of our
politicians or media people are disloyal. It simply means that they are
absolutely oblivious to the magnitude, of the situation we are in and into
which the Muslim terrorists have been pushing us, for many years.
Remember, the Muslim terrorists stated goal is to kill all infidels! That
translates into ALL non-Muslims -- not just in the United State, but throughout
the world.
We are the last bastion of defense.
We have been criticized for many years as being 'arrogant.' That charge is
valid in at least one respect. We are arrogant in that we believe that we are
so good, powerful and smart, that we can win the hearts and minds of all those
who attack us, and that with both hands tied behind our back, we can defeat
anything bad in the world!
We can't!
If we don't recognize this, our nation as we know it will not survive, and no
other free country in the world will survive if we are defeated.
And finally, name any Muslim countries throughout the world that allow freedom
of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equal
rights for anyone -- let alone everyone, equal status or any status for women,
or that have been productive in one single way that contributes to the good of
the world.
This has been a long way of saying that we must be united on this war or we
will be equated in the history books to the self-inflicted fall of the Roman
Empire . If, that is, the Muslim leaders will allow history books to be written
or read.
If we don't win this war right now, keep a close eye on how the Muslims take
over France in the next 5 years or less. They will continue to increase the
Muslim population of France and continue to encroach little by little, on the
established French traditions. The French will be fighting among themselves,
over what should or should not be done, which will continue to weaken them and
keep them from any united resolve. Doesn't that sound eerily familiar?
Democracies don't have their freedoms taken away from them by some external
military force. Instead, they give their freedoms away, politically correct
piece by politically correct piece.
And they are giving those freedoms away to those who have shown, worldwide that
they abhor freedom and will not apply it to you or even to themselves, once
they are in power.
They have universally shown that when they have taken over, they then start
brutally killing each other over who will be the few who control the masses.
Will we ever stop hearing from the politically correct, about the "peaceful
Muslims"?
I close on a hopeful note, by repeating what I said above. If we are united,
there is no way that we can lose. I hope now after the election, the factions
in our country will begin to focus on the critical situation we are in, and
will unite to save our country. It is your future we are talking about! Do
whatever you can to preserve it.
After reading the above, we all must do this not only for ourselves, but our
children, our grandchildren, our country and the world
Whether Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal and that include the
Politicians and media of our country and the free world!
Please forward this to any you feel may want, or NEED to read it. Our "leaders"
in Congress ought to read it, too. There are those that find fault with our
country, but it is obvious to anyone who truly thinks through this, that we
must UNITE!
If you would like to see who this fellow is go to this Air Force web sight and
look him up. http://www.af.mil/bios/alpha.asp?alpha=C
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