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In case you didn't get my PM, a graph or chart showing how much money we raised would be cool. To keep us informed on the situation and all. (If you got my PM, disregard this comment.)
 
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Where else can you learn this much and have this much fun for free? I sure don't mind helping and suspect most others feel the same.
 
Matt Payne said:
I'm not an expert, but neither am I convinced that a $5000 server is necessary. I'd like to contribute, but I'd like to see an analysis and a shopping list first
I'm not very familiar with the costs of hardware straight up and then colocation.... but I know to lease something like a Dual Xeon 3.2 with 2gb RAM and 2,000GB of bandwidth per month would run about $400/month ($4,800/year). Something like that would run this site nicely.
 
How about a raffle?

I'd be willing to donate a brand spanking new-in-the-box Spyderco knife to raffle off.

Something like this: Spyderco - Military Model, Black Blade, G-10 Handle, ComboEdge - retail price $189.95 (or one similar.... it needs to be in stock at the wholesaler, cause if they don't have it, I can't order it).

http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=114

If there is interest in this then let me know.

Say.... something like $10.00 per chance, winner gets the knife.

I wouldn't be able to do this without the support of the Mods, so it is pretty much up to them.

Hopefully something like this would drum up more $$$ for the cause (without turning it into a circus, I hope).
 
I'll kick in a few bucks now.

But let us know how it's going and I'll send a little here and there as I can.

One of those thermometer charts with the progress would be nice... :p

Sounds to me like for the future we should be looking for a way to offset the connectivity costs as well. $2000 per year is what future costs are expected to be? I don't have a problem with kicking in a few dollars here and there as I can for the future either. Noone should have to foot the whole bill on this by themselves. Maybe set up link to a donation page?

It'll go in the mail probably tomorrow, you guys are making me late again...

:neener:
 
" I'd like to contribute, but I'd like to see an analysis and a shopping list first."

Being that Oleg and partners have done this all 100% free up until now, I'll just take it on faith and recommend you do to.

Money will be out on the 15th.

By the way, when picking a hosting company or colo site....do not, DO NOT use CI Host. You have been warned. ;)
 
I am embarassed that I didn't catch the "...and the first year of connectivity" part. That changes the equation greatly and it was sloppy of me to miss it..

At the same time, I am grateful to Derek for his detailed explanation, and I am satisfied with it. Money on the way.

alduro said:
Being that Oleg and partners have done this all 100% free up until now, I'll just take it on faith and recommend you do to[o].

It was Ronald Reagan who said, "Trust, but verify." It is perfectly reasonable for donors to ensure that organizations to which they donate are making good use of the funds.

As long as Oleg and Derek were footing the bill (and thank you, by the way), they could use gold-plated polished-by-virgins servers if they so chose.

Once they invited us to help, it's reasonable to make sure that they hadn't missed something.

Anyway, thanks for the further info. Funds on the way!
 
It sounds to me like right now the thinking among the chiefs here is to continue with the same basic mode, but simply upgrade the hardware, and leave the housing, connections, and maintainence to Derek, giving him some financial assistance.

I would highly recommend a dedicated server solution via a hosting company, instead.

You are going to get better value for your money. In addition, you take much of the work load off of someone like Derek, who would no longer have to house the server in his home, support/repair the server, support the high speed connection, etc.

In addition, by going the hosting route, good hosts have multiple redundant broad-band connections to the Internet.

The cost will be competitive or better than purchasing equipment and assuming the financial burden of self-maintaining it.

In situations like this, I think back to the Florida hurricanes -- through absolutely no fault on Derek's part, the entire system was down for days. While commerical hosts cannot insure that such an event could not happen to them, they usually are much better prepared, with things like redundant connections and backup generators, to survive such events.

If I were making this decision, I would think about the long-term stability and survivability of the site. I would stay away from a solution that is dependent for its operation on any one individual, even someone as reliable and sterling as Derek!

Good Luck, and please keep us informed.
 
In no way are we considering leaving hosting in-house. The whole point is to get it out into a datacenter. This solves a lot of problems as I move to a rural area in a few months, where reliable hosting isn't something I want to plan on finding.

We're up to $604.05 so far, by the way. :)
 
I'll definitely chip in, but on one condition! Use Opterons! None of that over-priced, slow Intel garbage!

:D

Well, even if you decide to waste money on Intel Peons, I guess I'll still toss in my share. :)
 
Great, that makes more sense to me then, now that I understand your intentions. If I were you, I would really look forward to getting out of your current situation.

How long will the donations be open??

I just got through paying Uncle Sugar for the priviledge of breathing for the year. But I should have some cash flow going in 2 to 4 weeks. Do you think that will be too late?
 
"It's running on a dedicated server now (dual P3-933, 1.5G ram, hardware mirrored scsi drives). We burn through 60-80G per month (that's with gzip compression on), and the 3G database is servicing an average of somewhere around 25 queries per second (that's over a 24 hour period -- quick #queries divided by uptime calculation -- no look at load). Right now uptime stats hang out at about 1; prior to vB3 we were around 2.5 most of the time, and we're planning for growth (as in no new server in the forseeable future). Right now mysqldump takes 20-25 minutes and makes the board spit errors about database connects for most of that"


I'm glad somebody here knows what's going on. :confused:

If I donate a little extra will you stop saying stuff that makes me feel old and out of date?

:D

John...I think I got lost somewhere after DOS 3.1
 
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