Titegroup problem

[LiveLife]

Ruger GP100 fan, most reloaders will be happy with 0.1 gr variance from powder throws.

I think you are good to go.

 

[MEHavey]

the balance beam scale that came with the RCBS reload kit I bought gives me inconsistent charges every time.

Balance Beam scales aren't inconsistant.
They are ground truth.

What are you throwing the charges with (that then get weighed in the scale)?

 

[wrangler5]

I just got through loading 1200 9mm rounds with a Dillon Square Deal B. Titegroup measured so consistently through the Dillon measure that I finally ended up weighing only about one out of every 100 rounds or so. Every one was basically spot on, no more than the width of the indicator line on the end of the beam above or below the reference line.

AA#2 also meters like water. My only objection to it was that it leaked a fair bit with my Lee disk measures. (I haven't tried #2 in the Dillon measure, but Titegroup did NOT leak in the Lee disk measure.)

 

[Ruger GP100 fan]

Started out throwing into holding tray/pan that gets placed in the cradle of the scale,but I'm not always sure that all of the powder stays in it so I decided to throw into a shell case,then dump it into the pan on the scale.

As for powder throw see post #4 this thread.

 

[Ruger GP100 fan]

Several responses mentioned a baffle. What are they?

 

[LiveLife]

Powder baffles apply constant pressure to the rotor for more consistent powder charges (RCBS powder throw and baffle shown)


I use Lee Pro Auto Disk and do not use baffles for small particle powders like W231/HP38/Bullseye/Green Dot, but some use baffles for larger flake powders like Red Dot/Promo/Unique etc.

 

[LiveLife]

Powder baffle thread with link to baffle templates - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=504785

 

[Ruger GP100 fan]

I'll have to check them out. Thanks.

 

[Walkalong]

They work great. I usually put it about 1/3 from the top. It works its way up when I tap on it to get powder out of it. I have to keep an eye on it and move it down to where I like it. You can see from the marks it is up a little.

Redding 10X

 

[Ruger GP100 fan]

Walkalong,I took your advice and picked up a jug of #2. I hope by "AA" you meant Accurate powder because that's the only #2 I could find locally. Forgot to pick up a baffle,though,but I'm going to load some 38SP with this stuff,anyway. Maybe yet tonight.

 

[Ruger GP100 fan]

Walkalong,I loaded 50 rounds of 38SP last night using the #2. What a difference! Much better. At first glance at the jug on the store shelf my first thought was that,at about the same price as Titegroup,it's going to cost more to use. A closer look revealed that,even though the container looks to be about half the size of a jug of Titegroup,it does hold a pound. I like it...a lot. Thanks.

 

[Walkalong]

It is a good all around powder. Glad you had good results.

I keep this re-labled Hodgdon jar filled from the 4 Lb Jug of AA #2 I bought.

 

[rfwobbly]

I agree with RC, it's most likely your technique since your equipment is first rate stuff.

Here's another useful tip that helped me...
• First of all, make sure your Uniflow is set up with the small rotary barrel for pistol. There is a large rotary barrel for rifle that will give you terrible results on pistol.

• Use your Uniflow for all your drops. Use the 5-0-5 to precisely adjust the Uniflow. Precise adjustment on a single drop is very hard to achieve, so if you're trying to set up for (say for instance) 3.1gr, then instead, do 10 drops and measure 31.0gr. This will take slightly longer, but your average drop will be much closer to 3.1gr because the group weighing technique takes the small variations into account through averaging.

Hope this helps!

 

[Hondo 60]

Last night I was throwing 3.9 grains of titegroup. I measured every 5 rounds & saw a low of 3.7 & a high of 4.1. (just one of each) the rest were all dead on.

I use this ammo just for ridding the world of those dastardly evil paper targets & plastic bottles. So I'm not looking for perfection.

If you're concerned about .1 or .2, then you probably need to intentionally throw just under your target weight & use a powder trickler to finish the job.

 

[Seedtick]

Here is a thread that helped me a lot.

My new Uni-Flow powder dispenser.

ST

 

[Ruger GP100 fan]

Thanks everyone.
Walkalong,yesterday I was told by a gun shop owner that Accurate #2 is not the same as AA #2. Please clear up the confusion,will you? Whether it's the same or not I bought a jug of Accurate #2 and it meters great. I much prefer it over Titegroup.

 

[THe Dove]

Good points Hondo! I agree.

The Dove

 

[wrangler5]

RugerGP100, your gun shop owner needs to find a different line of work if he thinks Accurate #2 is not the same as AA#2. Accurate powders were originally distributed by Accurate Arms Company of McEwen, TN. Originally all of their powders were simply numbered, and they were frequently abbreviated simply "AA" followed by the number. The same as Winchester and Hodgdon numbered powders are usually "W" something and "H" something, respectively.

Accurate powders are now distributed by Western Powders of Miles City, MT. Even though they're no longer an "Accurate Arms" product, the "AA" abbreviation is still commonplace among reloaders.

I don't know where the powders are actually made - I have a jug of #2 that says it's a product of the Czech Republic, and I have a recollection that one of their powders was once made in Israel. My Western Powders jugs don't have any "made in" labels.

 

[Walkalong]

your gun shop owner needs to find a different line of work if he thinks Accurate #2 is not the same as AA#2.

Yep.

I have a jug of #2 that says it's a product of the Czech Republic, and I have a recollection that one of their powders was once made in Israel.

Me too. I still have a couple one pound jugs that say made in Israel.

it meters great

Don't it though! Almost dead on every throw. It is one of the least position sensitive powders there is. That is good in the .38 case where there is a lot of empty space under the bullet.

 

[giggitygiggity]

Titegroup has metered well for me so far. I use the Lee autodisc system.