ReadyontheRight
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Uh-oh -- I see several large walls of conservative-bashing monolithic text approaching this thread.
To the Democrats Out There
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Uh-oh -- I see several large walls of conservative-bashing monolithic text approaching this thread.Art Eatman
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At least there is the occasional leavening of humor in this thread. 
I note en passant that an IQ of 135 is not all that high on this board. There're some 150s around, and GREs in the 1400+ category...
Liberals don't generally seem to like the 2nd Amendment, nor the takings clause of the 5th. Conservatives generally get grumpy about the 1st and 4th...
, Art
I note en passant that an IQ of 135 is not all that high on this board. There're some 150s around, and GREs in the 1400+ category...
Liberals don't generally seem to like the 2nd Amendment, nor the takings clause of the 5th. Conservatives generally get grumpy about the 1st and 4th...
, Artmountainclmbr
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How many liberals does it take to change a lightbulb?
I don't know yet, they aren't through staffing all of the exploratory committees.
How many conservatives does it take to change a lightbulb?
One. They have no sense of humor.
I don't know yet, they aren't through staffing all of the exploratory committees.
How many conservatives does it take to change a lightbulb?
One. They have no sense of humor.
Joe Demko
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None. They hire one of their president's "guest workers" to do it for them.
Convenient memory loss there pard (9/11)? Half truths are whole lies. :banghead:
"I will not forget the wound to our country and those who inflicted it. I will not yield, I will not rest, I will not relent in waging this struggle for freedom and security for the American people."
George W. Bush, September 20, 2001
w4rma
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The Republican Party is led by a bunch of ideological lying whackos and racists who are turning this great nation of ours into North Mexico. They are the primary supporters of "free trade" which has created conditions where American factories CANNOT survive because totalitarian nations, such as China, have slave labor which American labor cannot compete with and America undergoes unrestricted trade with these governments under the banner of "free trade".
And now the Republican Party is bent on destroying our engineering, scientific and high tech sectors also, by enforcing an environment where sending engineering and accounting labor out to India and China is rewarded and employing American engineers, scientists and accountants (etc.) is punished.
The Republican Party is engaging in a massive redistribution of wealth, towards the billionare international aristocrats. I see many so-called conservatives talking about the United Nations as if it were the "New World Order" that Bush, Sr. foretold, all the while willfully ignoring the WTO which actually has power over the U.S. Constitution.
The Republican Party, the party of the aristocracy, are the ideological descendants of the Royalists/Tories who opposed our freedom and supported the King of England during the Civil War. Thomas Jefferson would have opposed today's Republican Party, imho, and so do I.
Not only do I oppose the Republican Party, but I support the Democratic Party. I support the Democratic Party's efforts to disperse power as widely as possible to prevent any conglomeration of power from growing large enough to become oppressive, although in these times it's to reverse the trend in conglomeration of power. I support Democratic efforts towards civil rights. I support Democratic efforts towards higher salaries for non-billionares. I support Democratic efforts towards lower taxes on non-billionares. I support Democratic efforts to expand education and health care for Americans. I support Democratic efforts to create a political environment that will reverse the trade gap, build American factories and create American wealth. I support Democratic efforts towards promoting democracy and increasing living standards throughout the world.
And now the Republican Party is bent on destroying our engineering, scientific and high tech sectors also, by enforcing an environment where sending engineering and accounting labor out to India and China is rewarded and employing American engineers, scientists and accountants (etc.) is punished.
The Republican Party is engaging in a massive redistribution of wealth, towards the billionare international aristocrats. I see many so-called conservatives talking about the United Nations as if it were the "New World Order" that Bush, Sr. foretold, all the while willfully ignoring the WTO which actually has power over the U.S. Constitution.
The Republican Party, the party of the aristocracy, are the ideological descendants of the Royalists/Tories who opposed our freedom and supported the King of England during the Civil War. Thomas Jefferson would have opposed today's Republican Party, imho, and so do I.
Not only do I oppose the Republican Party, but I support the Democratic Party. I support the Democratic Party's efforts to disperse power as widely as possible to prevent any conglomeration of power from growing large enough to become oppressive, although in these times it's to reverse the trend in conglomeration of power. I support Democratic efforts towards civil rights. I support Democratic efforts towards higher salaries for non-billionares. I support Democratic efforts towards lower taxes on non-billionares. I support Democratic efforts to expand education and health care for Americans. I support Democratic efforts to create a political environment that will reverse the trade gap, build American factories and create American wealth. I support Democratic efforts towards promoting democracy and increasing living standards throughout the world.
HBK
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Perhaps, but how do you explain the communists, socialists, and traitors of which the Democratic party is made up?
Glock Glockler
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The Republican Party is led by a bunch of ideological lying whackos and racists who are turning this great nation of ours into North Mexico.
Are you telling me that the Democratic Party is run by a bunch of humble altruists whose only goal in life is to relieve the plight of the common man?
They are the primary supporters of "free trade" which has created conditions where American factories CANNOT survive because totalitarian nations, such as China, have slave labor which American labor cannot compete with and America undergoes unrestricted trade with these governments under the banner of "free trade".
1 - Your buddies Clinton and Gore, as well as many other Democrats, were all about the PTNR China Bill and other "free trade agreements"
2 - The Democrats have been instrumental in creating hostile business conditions in the US that have made relocation/outsourcing so attractive. If you want to have a Marxist welfare state that strips the productive of their wealth and hands it out to others you will destroy the desire to produce. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
The Republican Party is engaging in a massive redistribution of wealth, towards the billionare international aristocrats
Wow, I never knew that having tax cuts to allow people to keep more of their money was wealth redistribution. And all this time I was under the impression that the confiscatory tax structure combined with the slew of welfare handouts was "re-distribution". Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I support the Democratic Party's efforts to disperse power as widely as possible to prevent any conglomeration of power from growing large enough to become oppressive, although in these times it's to reverse the trend in conglomeration of power.
You mean the scores of welfare parasites who've never worked a day in their lives and subsist off of my labor will no longer be able to outvote me?
I support Democratic efforts towards civil rights
Yes, they showed just how much they value RKBA in the recent gun vote.
I support Democratic efforts towards higher salaries for non-billionares
Strawman Garbage. Do you even have a clue how much it takes to be included in the highest tax bracket?
I support Democratic efforts to expand education and health care for Americans.
Yeah, the govt has done such a great job on education in the past 50 decades their involvement has skyrocketed, I guess the fact that American students are becoming increasing stupid relative to other countries is just my imagination. VA hospitals are the best healthcare institutions ever to grace the earth.
I support Democratic efforts to create a political environment that will reverse the trade gap, build American factories and create American wealth
Yes, giving the Democrats what they want will make the US an absolute haven for business and investment. People all around the world will want to invest here when we are saved by monstorous taxes and by libraries of laws and regulations that will bless our businesses.
I support Democratic efforts towards promoting democracy and increasing living standards throughout the world.
Yes, your unwavering support of removing a tyrant like Saddam Hussain has been noted. Those granola eating, pot-smoking, soap-hating hippie Democrats I saw protesting were really protesting Saddam's murderous regime. Thanks for clearing that up
Are you telling me that the Democratic Party is run by a bunch of humble altruists whose only goal in life is to relieve the plight of the common man?
They are the primary supporters of "free trade" which has created conditions where American factories CANNOT survive because totalitarian nations, such as China, have slave labor which American labor cannot compete with and America undergoes unrestricted trade with these governments under the banner of "free trade".
1 - Your buddies Clinton and Gore, as well as many other Democrats, were all about the PTNR China Bill and other "free trade agreements"
2 - The Democrats have been instrumental in creating hostile business conditions in the US that have made relocation/outsourcing so attractive. If you want to have a Marxist welfare state that strips the productive of their wealth and hands it out to others you will destroy the desire to produce. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
The Republican Party is engaging in a massive redistribution of wealth, towards the billionare international aristocrats
Wow, I never knew that having tax cuts to allow people to keep more of their money was wealth redistribution. And all this time I was under the impression that the confiscatory tax structure combined with the slew of welfare handouts was "re-distribution". Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I support the Democratic Party's efforts to disperse power as widely as possible to prevent any conglomeration of power from growing large enough to become oppressive, although in these times it's to reverse the trend in conglomeration of power.
You mean the scores of welfare parasites who've never worked a day in their lives and subsist off of my labor will no longer be able to outvote me?
I support Democratic efforts towards civil rights
Yes, they showed just how much they value RKBA in the recent gun vote.
I support Democratic efforts towards higher salaries for non-billionares
Strawman Garbage. Do you even have a clue how much it takes to be included in the highest tax bracket?
I support Democratic efforts to expand education and health care for Americans.
Yeah, the govt has done such a great job on education in the past 50 decades their involvement has skyrocketed, I guess the fact that American students are becoming increasing stupid relative to other countries is just my imagination. VA hospitals are the best healthcare institutions ever to grace the earth.
I support Democratic efforts to create a political environment that will reverse the trade gap, build American factories and create American wealth
Yes, giving the Democrats what they want will make the US an absolute haven for business and investment. People all around the world will want to invest here when we are saved by monstorous taxes and by libraries of laws and regulations that will bless our businesses.
I support Democratic efforts towards promoting democracy and increasing living standards throughout the world.
Yes, your unwavering support of removing a tyrant like Saddam Hussain has been noted. Those granola eating, pot-smoking, soap-hating hippie Democrats I saw protesting were really protesting Saddam's murderous regime. Thanks for clearing that up
Come on now. The Dems want to have targeted tax cuts. Translation: tax the "rich" and give to the poor. Yes, and we decide who is considered rich.
This is a bunch of hooey (technical term). The Dems want to target money to certain people so those people will feel beholden to Uncle (Kennedy and Kerry) when it's time to vote.
The Dem strategy: If we repeat it over and over and ignore any logical rebuttal it will eventually appear to be true or at least people will get tired and stop questioning it. (e.g. "an astonishing 52 percent of the total tax cuts will go to the richest one percent" here) :banghead:
I am not the one percent by any means but I believe if they pay the 52% they should get the 52% relief. Let's see...Dems want to keep the marriage tax penalty and penalize people who have made good on the American dream. Yeah, I know, corporate greed, blah, blah, blah. Enforce the laws and punish them appropriately. Don't try to use it to prove that people who make 1, 2 or $300,000+ a year should pay for all the social ills.
mountainclmbr
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The Democrats are only pro choice about one thing that I won't address here. They are not for freedom of school choice. They are not for the choice for me to be able to defend myself. They are against choice in how I spend my earnings because I may not spend it properly.
Why am I forced to comply with their socialist utopian visions? I can think of my own utopian vision that they would hate. Why don't I get to try this? My choice WOULD be equally viable if they were pro-choice. My utopian vision would be that the rich, elitist Democrat politicians and their vocal supporters would have their wealth redistributed and then let them try to get ahead after that under their own rules. It would be a wonderful thing to see. The people who really believe in the class system having the rug pulled from under them.
Why am I forced to comply with their socialist utopian visions? I can think of my own utopian vision that they would hate. Why don't I get to try this? My choice WOULD be equally viable if they were pro-choice. My utopian vision would be that the rich, elitist Democrat politicians and their vocal supporters would have their wealth redistributed and then let them try to get ahead after that under their own rules. It would be a wonderful thing to see. The people who really believe in the class system having the rug pulled from under them.
mountainclmbr
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I really don't care about IQ. I think that Bill Clinton was very smart. Hillary too. I just don't think he or she were the least bit concerned about my civil rights. I think o'l Bill was concerned about Bill. That was his downfall. Hillary was tagging along. Stalin wannabees.
I want to force liberals to promise to discontinue support for socialist policies to offset the gunpoint tactics that I am forced to support them...to offset what is now in place.
High IQ doesn't equate to honesty. The brutal killer dictators from the last century were consistently smart. Socialism is bad for anyone except the government masters.
Anyone who has moved from their parents home to gain freedom should think about this.
I want to force liberals to promise to discontinue support for socialist policies to offset the gunpoint tactics that I am forced to support them...to offset what is now in place.
High IQ doesn't equate to honesty. The brutal killer dictators from the last century were consistently smart. Socialism is bad for anyone except the government masters.
Anyone who has moved from their parents home to gain freedom should think about this.
Moparmike
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Umm, excuse me? Nothing has any power over the US Constitution. Nothing. Here, let me say it one more time, in all caps, bolded, and in another color to make sure it sticks: NO GOVERNING BODY OR DOCUMENT OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES PREEMPTS THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION. Is that now clear w4rma?
You need to take a civics class, one that isnt taught by some socialist revisionist bimbo.:banghead:
If any of you are in doubt what the Democrats have in store for the whole country in allowed control of the Legislative and Executive, look at what happened in California since Gray Davis (former recalled Dem Governor) and the 65% majority in the CA Legislature did to gun rights since 1998. It wasn't pretty before but it is 1000 times worse now. Every anti gun bill that came to Davis' desk made it into law. BTW, he got a Silver Star in Vietnam just like the other toot your own horn BIG WAR HERO John Kerry. I think they did more butt kissing than heroics.
Shooter 2.5
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The dem party should be driven from office for the reason they refuse to allow me to defend my life and that of my family.
That and that alone is enough.
No promise of government handouts or jobs can repay that betrayal.
That and that alone is enough.
No promise of government handouts or jobs can repay that betrayal.
mountainclmbr
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Stalin originaly called socialism "government capitalism". If you think capitalism is bad with the checks and balances in place, just wait until there is a monopoly on power. There will be equal misery for all, except the ruling class whose children will inherit power. The working class will toil in poverty to support their masters.
So, to Democrat gunowners out there... are you going to give them up Mr and Mrs America..when the gun roundup happens? Will you do the rest of the things that happen when the government gets total power? Will you help them load me into the train?
Part of me wants to believe that everyone should be able to vote. Another part of me thinks that people should visit a hard core communist country before they are allowed to vote here. I have and it frightened the hell out of me.
For the life of me, I can't understand how otherwise honerable people would vote for the real party that lies about its real intentions. I wish I could pay for each and every registered Democrat to visit Tibet to see what totalitarian, government control, communism smells like. To see how compassionately the government treats the people. The people are fed propaganda that sounds like the Democrat speaches here. They accuse the USA of doing exactly what they are doing...enslaving the people. When Hillary yells "power to the people" it gives me deja vu.
So, to Democrat gunowners out there... are you going to give them up Mr and Mrs America..when the gun roundup happens? Will you do the rest of the things that happen when the government gets total power? Will you help them load me into the train?
Part of me wants to believe that everyone should be able to vote. Another part of me thinks that people should visit a hard core communist country before they are allowed to vote here. I have and it frightened the hell out of me.
For the life of me, I can't understand how otherwise honerable people would vote for the real party that lies about its real intentions. I wish I could pay for each and every registered Democrat to visit Tibet to see what totalitarian, government control, communism smells like. To see how compassionately the government treats the people. The people are fed propaganda that sounds like the Democrat speaches here. They accuse the USA of doing exactly what they are doing...enslaving the people. When Hillary yells "power to the people" it gives me deja vu.
bountyhunter
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No, I think he is just articulating what most of us who regularly (albeit, reluctantly) find ourselves voting for democratic candidates have always said: it just is less evil than the alternative. I have always maintained that voting democratic requires a high degree of physical dexteriry: you have to be able to work the voting machine with your right hand and hold your nose with your left hand.
I am old and have seen a lot of government come and go... and some of the things I have learned are these:
1) republican claim to be the party of "smaller government", but in reality the size of government explodes when they are in office (check the numbers).
2) republicans accuse demos of being "tax and spend", but the reality is that repubs are the party of "borrow and spend" which is ultimately MUCH worse because it has run the deficit up to a point from which it will never recover.
3) repubs accuse dems of being hung up on social spending and there is some accuracy there... but in general, the republican party is heartless when it comes to taking care of the lower classes. Governor reagan once expounded on how private sector should be doing it, not the government... as he shut down 90% of the state mental hospitals in California. Those looneys found there way to being the thousands of homeless people staggering down the street swatting invisible flies and dying a slow, misearble death because their families could not cope with them.
No party is perfect, but I have clearly seen human misery goes way up under republican administrations and that is just the way it is. Dfenese spending also goes through the roof along with the deficit, and we will all eventually pay for that reckless spending.
The final thing that makes me choke on the idea of voting republican is the level of hypocrisy embedded into their value system: they fight so hard to make it illegal to get an abortion, but fight just as hard against state funded programs for pre-natal care for the indigent and call all the woman who are forced to have the babies "welfare mothers" with a sneering disdain.
Repubs claim the moral high ground and claim to be the party of God..... they will stampede in front of a camera to scream about the destruction of the sanctity of marriage if gays are allowed to have civil unions. So, where is the outrage that should exist for the fact my wife and I pay an additional $5000 per year in taxes for the choice to BE MARRIED? We have a republican congress, where is the legislation to eliminate the "marriage penalty" which is a REAL cause of destruction of marriage?
Still waiting..........
Neither party is perfect, but the dems generally don't have as much hatred for the general population laced into their aims and actions. For me, that's enough.
I don't like politics either. Regardless of which title you hang on it.
"illegal to get an abortion" - Abort what? Termination of pregnancy? Termination of child? Why is it murder if someone hits a woman and kills the baby but it's ok if she does it? Treating a growing pre-born child as you would an ingrown toenail...Talk about hypocrisy.
"all the woman who are forced to have the babies" Forced?
Both parties are full of less than perfect people because they are full of people. And for every report/statistic that supports one position there exists one to support the other. Statistics are open to corruption. Changing any of the multiple parameters slightly can greatly affect the outcome. Then of course someone completely unbiased has to determine, what if, any conclusion can be drawn from results. That is were it gets even more creative.
"illegal to get an abortion" - Abort what? Termination of pregnancy? Termination of child? Why is it murder if someone hits a woman and kills the baby but it's ok if she does it? Treating a growing pre-born child as you would an ingrown toenail...Talk about hypocrisy.
"all the woman who are forced to have the babies" Forced?
Both parties are full of less than perfect people because they are full of people. And for every report/statistic that supports one position there exists one to support the other. Statistics are open to corruption. Changing any of the multiple parameters slightly can greatly affect the outcome. Then of course someone completely unbiased has to determine, what if, any conclusion can be drawn from results. That is were it gets even more creative.
mountainclmbr
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This is addressed to the Democrat supporters:
Do you really own guns?
Would you vote for Kerry if you knew for CERTAIN that you would lose your guns?
Please explain the reasoning.
Do you really own guns?
Would you vote for Kerry if you knew for CERTAIN that you would lose your guns?
Please explain the reasoning.
ReadyontheRight
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This is addressed to the Democrats out there:
When double-barrel shotguns are legally defined as "high capacity assault weapons", will you vote for Kerry's second term when he campaigns on closing the "over-under loophole"?
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
When double-barrel shotguns are legally defined as "high capacity assault weapons", will you vote for Kerry's second term when he campaigns on closing the "over-under loophole"?
May your chains rest lightly upon you.
7.62FullMetalJacket
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That depends, can we still have SxS shotguns?
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