Tomcat 32 ACP for Carry?

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Agreed: Run a search on the Beretta Tomcat and its "reliability" on this forum alone during the past two or three months and you'll get an eye-opener. A .32 pistol is better than no pistol at all (it was the standard police and military round for years and years and years), but many more firearms choices are available to you besides the lowly Tomcat -- and most all of them would be greatly superior.
 
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"the issue isn't distance to victim/assailant or the type of gun used but, rather, whether the shooter was justified in using LETHAL FORCE in the first place.
If you are justified, you're home free. If you aren't, you've got problems.



Thank you...!!! There's has to be a need...and if there is,... 2 feet, 21 feet, or 50 feet really doesn't matter.
 
I agree with searcher. I've seen a few of these jam up bad, like every other round.
 
I picked up an Beretta 1935 .32 auto in a pawnshop 6 weeks ago, it was used a little, mostly holster wear, but not abused. First thing I did was get new springs all the way thru it, cleaned it up thoroughly, and put a tad bit of Mil Tec 1 on it and its now good to go. I've read about the Tomcat, don't really like the D/A trigger, JMO, this is why I grabbed the 1935. This model of Beretta fits my hand better, doesn't fill my hand like a S&W 629, but I can't carry that concealed either. I got this for CWC, I know its not an elephant slayer, didn't buy it for that purpose, but knowing someone might try anything in this day and age, at least I might have a chance to save myself or loved one if an attempted attack were to transpire. I have the 629 for protection at home, however the Beretta gives a little better feeling of not having anything when the SHTF!:eek:

About whether or not one's justified in using lethal force: If one is to kick-in my front door @ 0230 in the AM, uninvited, I take it that they aren't the normal type to ring the doorbell and wait for me to get there. If they were to ring this bell, I then have the option to let them in/send on their way, depending on what's needed. However, when they determine to kick-in the door to help themselves to what's mine, I take a personal affront to this, and they will be lying there waiting for the coroner to give them a free ride!
 
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Tacbandit said:
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"the issue isn't distance to victim/assailant or the type of gun used but, rather, whether the shooter was justified in using LETHAL FORCE in the first place.
If you are justified, you're home free. If you aren't, you've got problems.



Thank you...!!! There's has to be a need...and if there is,... 2 feet, 21 feet, or 50 feet really doesn't matter.
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Keep thinking that. Just because the law allows you the right to use "lethal" force (which, by the way, does NOT mean you have a blank check to kill your attacker) doesn't mean the particular circumstances of your shooting won't be a factor in determining whether to prosecute you. And that's just regarding criminal liability. Civil liability can bite you in the ass if the plaintiff can persuade a jury that you could have done something, anything short of killing your attacker. Don't think that distance isn't a factor in determining whether the threat was "imminent."
 
My step son carried a Tomcat for several years and liked it a lot.

As far as the .32, it has always been one of my favorite calibers. I have a 9mm and a 45, as well as a couple of revolvers, but in truth I carry an Interarms Walther PPK/S in .32 more than any other. Whether or not its good for you is a personal decision. In the Walther, I have 9 shots (8+1), low recoil, fast follow up shots, great accuracy and functioning with all types of ammo.
 
I have had both, and still have the seacamp for 10-11 years. It's a Belly gun, after 3-5 yards good luck hitting anything, I think the Baretta even in 25 or 22 lr would be more accurate. The Seacamp as most of us know, dosen't even bother to put sights on the pistol. That's because if you are forced to take action it's an "in your face situation with that gun. You are more than likelly touching the person by that time. I would not want to trade fire with anyone armed with a larger caliber in a larger pistol or revolver at any distance with the seacamp as my only weapon. But if you must, you must. I never understood why Larry didn't put a front sight on the darn thing. The glow off the frame makes it difficult to see if you are holding the darn thing straight in a bright room. They make an armalaser for it now, which is probablly a good idea to get, after putting one on my PF-9, it's a win, win situation. 9mm is my daily carry. I finally switched from 45 last year and found it made things easier to dress around. But both my 26 and 30 are dressed the same. This way it's not a shock to the brain when switching. I also have used the skateboard tape on the frame since I had the pistol, now Talon makes a better grip tape for your smaller Glocks XD's etc, nice folks there also. I got that Talon from Hickock 45, It's cheap as sketboard tape and pre cut for your gun, also when you want it off it comes off.
 

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Seecamp is an obsolete design only for silvertips...
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Not true any more Their are several brands hat work today . Its the OAL of the round.

I also would get the KelTec in 32 have 3 of them in my house at present.

If you can only shoot at 21' or closer Then I can stand at 22' and fire at you safety. You said so.
 
the Tomcat is an excellent pistol i wish i could fire it more but .32 acp ammo is very hard to come by these days .
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Ever try Wal*Mart?
That's where I get my WWB for my Seecamp, a quality piece.
Otherwise, I've had no problem buying online.
Remember, you probably won't be shooting hundreds of rounds at a time.
Seecamps are nice...prolly gonna get one when the .380's come down in price
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They have.
On Gunbroker, the new Seecamp .32's sell all day for $425, and the .380's are under $800 if you watch.
Now, that's not cheap by any means, but once you've owned one you realize what a quality tiny firearm it is.
It becomes "Why not carry it in my pocket", instead of "Can I fit it in my pocket."
I bought a .32.
 
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I think it is better to have a mouse gun on you than a .45 in the drawer at home. I had a tomcat, and traded it off for a keltec .32. I am happy with the trade, check one out before you buy the tomcat.
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I see this alot, while it may be true, I'll still rather carry my full size 9mm than a mouse gun. Its no problem to me.
 
cute but useless

well made and i like the tipup barrel for safe unloading etc. Neat curio for collectors.

Awkward to shoot, worst trigger pull I have sceen in 50 years of shooting. I put rubber grips on it but took them off because they just made it fatter and more awkward. if you have hands bigger than an 8 year old, go for something else.

Use to put in my camera bag but decided my Makarov was only a little bigger and 10 times the weapon with twice the bullet.
 
I think it is better to have a mouse gun on you than a .45 in the drawer at home.
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I subscribe to this theory as well. There are times when I can't carry anything but my little P-32 and I'm quite happy to have it around.
 
My best friend cracked two frames on early Tomcat guns. I think they are also a bit thick due to the spring/arms under the grips. I carry a Seecamp. It's never failed and drops into anything I may wear. A .32 is sufficient for casual carry in most of the U.S.
 
I carry a Keltec P32 every day, even days when I carry a 9mm or .45. Very reliable, easy to carry and easy to shoot. I light practice with it regularly (7 rounds every time I visit the range), over 600 rounds now without incident. Shot a Tomcat. Liked the tip barrel, but it was too heavy.
 
I carry a Taurus TCP 380. It's as small as just about any .32 pistol and weighs just under 9oz. Personally I like the 380 AKA 9mm Short round. It has a good bit more authority than a .32 and even in these tiny guns the recoil isn't too bad. At home there's a 9mm and a 12ga. which is my favorite home defense weapon but the 380 is easiest to carry especially in the summer.
 
I carry a Kel-Tec P-32 in my back pocket in one of these holsters:
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The first new handgun I purchased was a Tomcat, and I really enjoyed carrying and shooting it. It looked good and felt good, and the recoil was light enough that I was fairly accurate with it.

Ultimately, though, I found it difficult to justify carrying a .32 when it was just as easy to carry something larger. I don't like the appearance or feel of the Kel-Tec pistols, but ended up with an NAA Guardian. This is a superbly machined pistol, just as easy to carry as the Tomcat, but much more powerful, and with a Crimson Trace it has worked out well for me. I chose the .32NAA caliber (.380 necked down to a .32), after being convinced by NAA's marketing that it is superior to the .380. That's a whole other debate, but either way I feel the Guardian is one of the best for when I can't conceal my G27.

I still miss the Tomcat, but seized the opportunity to buy a beautiful 20-year-old Bobcat in .25ACP with an actual blued finish (not matte) to satisfy my craving for a Beretta tip-up. It's even harder to justify a .25 than a .32, but it's nice to shoot for fun or as a lightweight mowing-the-yard gun. My Tomcat had some reliability issues, but the Bobcat has been perfect.
 
I Love my Tomcat 3032! I carry it everyday! I Love .32 ACP as well! IMO it is a up close personal Close Quartes Defense Firearm. I can hit very good with it at 25 yards, but expect its role would be more personal fast attack situaution.

It conceals very easy IMO anyway as compared to about any .380 I ever tried or currently own.

I love the .380 ACP and especially in the new Sig P238. I carry a Taurus PT58HC a lot as well, but not to work or an all day carry. It conceals well in high rise hip hugger, but my Tomcat goes everywhere all the time.

But DO look up "Tomcat 3032 Cracked Slide" info on internet and if you buy one get a new "Wide Slide" or "Inox" version of the gun and dont worry about it!

I have an older thin slide in Matte black that is fine, but I use reccomended pressure ammo in it (pressure below 130) there is ammo that fits this reccomendation and Federal Hydra-Shok is perfect at (125) and feeds exceptionally in mine.

I will say that the first double action trigger pull is heavy but susequent SA pulls feel good to me and I hit very well with my Tomcat. I actually like the first DA heavy pull in the roll that this gun plays in my mind!
 
The problem with wanting to carry a small sized weapon is that you get small sized ammunition with it. What is the general feeling about 32 cal. in a self defence situation?
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My two cent's worth...


Forget the .32 for self defense....it's too weak to reliably stop an attack.
Don't carry anything less than a .38 Special +P or a 9mm Para.


Keep in mind that any self-defence shooting at a range greater than about 21 feet means that you'd be going to jail not to mention the civil action.
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Whoever put this notion in your head does not know what they are talking about.
Don't take any additional advice from them.
 
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