Tomorrow's Rare and Collectible

[50 Shooter]

I would agree with the HK-P7 and would add the Kriss Super V. Most stuff would have to be low numbered and first run. Possibly an original M82, SPAS-12, early HK rifles, Galil, FAL...

Most of these are already 30 years old or close to it, there's plenty to add to the list.

 

[EdJennings]

Speaking of gen3 S&W guns, the 10XX series has to top the list for future collectables. The 1076 is already pretty much a collectors item.

 

[valnar]

I have a Dan Wesson PM7-S 1911 that I bought for around $550 in 2003 that's worth twice that now. But to the original poster's point, anything made very very well. I don't foresee run-of-the-mill Glocks ever being collectable. S&W Performance Center revolvers have that capability today, simply because of the quality and rarity. I'd put my Smith 625 PC against anything of the past, despite that fact it is only stainless.

 

[45_auto]

I don't think polymer framed handguns will ever be that collectible unless there is some future registry like transferable class III items today.

I'm of the exact opposite opinion. I think polymer-framed handguns are guaranteed to be collectible. All polymers degrade over time due to UV and oxygen exposure. Same reason plastic car dashboards and seats harden and crack on older cars. Modern gun polymers are better chemistry and will last longer, but not forever. They'll harden and become brittle over time.

It won't happen in our lifetime or our kid's lifetime, but a few hundred years from now someone will pull some pristine early-generation Glocks out of an environmentally-controlled storage container and sell them to collectors for an unbelievable price that will make Wyatt Earp's Colt SAA seem cheap by comparison.

 

[ridgerunner1965]

i may be wrong depending on which way this country goes.but in 50 yrs it will still be all about finely polished blued steel and walnut stocks.just like what brings the big money now.

if we go down the wrong road where self defense is more important, then it will be all about hi cap and reliability.thats your two choices really.

there are already a lot of places where a bus load of pre 64 winchester bolt rifles would not buy yu a ak-47.

 

[barnbwt]

I love the folks listing off already +1000%-appreciated guns as "tomorrow's rare and collectible." They must be trying to offload their holdings

SPAS12, P210, P7, Mateba, Pythons and the other assorted snakes --those prices all reached escape velocity years back.

My money's (literally) on the few remaining WWI guns (Steyr M95 and 1912 pistol, specifically) that aren't already sought after going up very very soon. Same for WWII guns. I think French surplus is finally about to hit a renaissance in this nation; it'll be hard to justify dropping 2000$ on a Garand or FAL repro when a MAS49/56 is less than half that. My MAS 1873 has already doubled or so in value since I bought it months ago (150$). SKSs will price up to current SVT40 levels in the next decade, at least those unmodified for import regs. AKs and other semi-auto converted guns, ultimately being "consumer" products, will go up in price as supply declines, but their total "net worth" will cease climbing since currently-produced consumer clones will suck away much of the old guns' desirability (why Garands don't cost 5X more than an M1A today)

It won't happen in our lifetime or our kid's lifetime, but a few hundred years from now someone will pull some pristine early-generation Glocks out of an environmentally-controlled storage container and sell them to collectors for an unbelievable price that will make Wyatt Earp's Colt SAA seem cheap by comparison.

Or... "Dang it, how many of these stupid things did those fools make? And why were they all buried in this idiot's yard? This is the fifth container today!"

I'm more worried about a loaf of bread costing me/my descendants $10,000,000 that far in the future. That, and the Brotherhood of Machines. I plan to live forever, of course

TCB

 

[TrickyDick]

I would place bets on imports.... god knows those will unfortunately come to an end.

 

[TennJed]

The OP asked about guns "regularly manufactured today". Lots of post on here about guns that have not been manufactured in a long time

 

[EssToy]

IMHO given enough time any well made firearm will be collectible.

Scott

 

[bushmaster1313]

Kimber .257 Roberts:



Ruger No. 1 .243 Winchester:

 

[bluetopper]

Anything in blued steel and walnut will steadily increse in value.

 

[astra600]

Walther P5s had a retail of about $1200 before they quit making them. About three years ago they were around $600 NIB. Now they're pushing $1200 again.

Maybe I should have kept the Ruger P345. Except it was a lousy gun.

Who knows.

 

[OptimusPrime]

A) foreign guns, for when the imports dry up
B) whatever guns get featured in future movies, or are featured now in movies that will be looked back at as "authentic from when (whomever passes for Bond or Dirty Harry in the future) carried the same one!"

 

[Tipro]

The OP asked about guns "regularly manufactured today". Lots of post on here about guns that have not been manufactured in a long time

OP here. Honestly, milsurps and what not didn't even cross my mind when making this post. They fit well enough though.

 

[javjacob]

45 auto you are crazy if you think a glock will be worth more than Wyatt Earp's Colt. some things are just fads just like baseball cards, they aren't worth crap now but brought a fortune in the 90s. all the fools who paid big money for them back then thinking they would be worth more in the future im sure they feel like fools today. beanie babies were another thing supposed to be worth big money and be highly collectible yada yada and a lot of fools bought them up like crazy and now they aren't worth jack squat. If glocks ever become highly collectible it will just be a fad just like baseball cards. AR15s were bringing $2000-$2500 just a few months ago but you can get them now for under $600 easily.
just saying don't be a fool. gold coins never lose their value because they are made out of GOLD! baseball cards are made out of paper and paper isn't worth anything. beanie babies are made out of fabric and well fabric isn't worth much of anything. guns made out of good steel and quality wood all have the ability to be collectible but guns made out of plastic and pot metal and aluminum... maybe not so much.
bottom line is something is only truly worth what it is made out of. anything higher just depends on the market and as everyone should know by now since its happened time and time before and again... the market can crash without warning. Its only worth what the buyer is willing to pay

 

[bannockburn]

I would say the Colt SAA would be at the top of a collectors list because to me it's one of those timeless classics that will always be sought after by collectors. Same with the Browning Hi-Power and possibly the Colt Government and Gold Cup models.

 

[Njal Thorgeirsson]

Ruger No. 1!

The desirable discontinued models already command a premium if in good shape, they're easy to rebarrel into just about any centerfire cartridge, and the craftsmanship is great! They discontinued all but 6 variants at the beginning of 2013, so I think they may go out of production in the foreseeable future.

 

[45_auto]

Well javjacob, I don't know you well enough to say that you're crazy, but based on your posts you're definitely either young and inexperienced or ignorant.

some things are just fads just like baseball cards, they aren't worth crap now

It would appear that several million people on Ebay disagree with you on that one. You may find it interesting to note that there are about 15 times more listings on Ebay for baseball cards (1,700,000) than there are for firearms on Gunbroker (122,000). Which one is a fad?

These are just the top of the "sold" listings (literally thousands of pages) in the past few weeks:

gold coins never lose their value because they are made out of GOLD!

Interesting viewpoint there. Actual history proves you wrong again. Those poor suckers who bought gold in the early 1980's are still hoping to get their money back. Gold coins have lost about a third of their intrinsic value in just the last year or so.

Historical (inflation adjusted) value of gold and silver:

http://www.macrotrends.net/1333/gold-and-silver-prices-100-year-historical-chart

Its only worth what the buyer is willing to pay

At least you got that part correct, it's just your perception of what people are willing to pay for that's wrong. Come back in a couple of hundred years and we'll see who's right!

 

[CB900F]

Njal;

Ruger has a long & well documented history of fiddling their product line-up. Guns and calibers will constantly phase in & out over the long haul. Though I'd be extremely surprised to see the #1 totally out of the catalog even as a short term hiatus in it's production.

900F

 

[Speedo66]

Laugh, but the Kel-Tec Sub2000 will be an instant collectable if they ever stop production. The term "collectable" doesn't have to apply only to heirloom quality arms, just something that's desirable.

Even while still in production, they were going for up to $900 USED during the recent panic buying. This for a gun with an MSRP of $400 new. They are a low production item, and still hard to come by.

I guess people want a small, foldable, easily concealed pistol caliber carbine that's fun, accurate, and reliable. Actually, I probably could have stopped at foldable.

For the record, I love mine and don't contemplate selling it any time soon.

 

[huntsman]

Ruger No. 1!

The desirable discontinued models already command a premium if in good shape, they're easy to rebarrel into just about any centerfire cartridge, and the craftsmanship is great! They discontinued all but 6 variants at the beginning of 2013, so I think they may go out of production in the foreseeable future.

Do you know what is being dropped?

Slowly the old Ruger is slipping away the question is do those guns meet the status of accepted quality that great guns have? I guess that's up to the individual.

This whole notion of a collectable is a recent phenomenon could vanish quickly along disposable income and wealth.

 

[Salmoneye]

Even today pre-lock S&W revolvers and pre-safety Marlin lever actions bring premium prices.

Ixnay on the Arlinmays...

lol

 

[deadin]

Exactly. It's the mentality my father had when he took those Micky Mantle baseball cards and put them in the spokes of his bicycle. Who would ever collect these?

I cringe to think of how much value got torn up in those bike spokes. But who knew?

If all those MM cards hadn't been torn up in bike spokes, they wouldn't be as rare today.

Along the same vein, maybe any of the current crop of PPM (plastic-Pot-Metal) guns that manage to survive being shot over the years might increase in value. (There's hope for unfired GSG's )

 

[tarosean]

Speaking of gen3 S&W guns, the 10XX series has to top the list for future collectables. The 1076 is already pretty much a collectors item.

yeah I was looking at complete auctions on gunbroker the other day... holy smokes are they skyrocketing in price.

 

[Mauser lover]

Revolvers. Well made ones at least. Metal autos. Browning Hi-powers and CZs mostly, as far as I am thinking. Unless you have a special serial number or something, I am not thinking any Glocks. Or Hi-Points. Or other things with alot of plastic. (It is easy to make, so they make a lot of them, so they will probably never be totally rare.)

More "collectible" are going to be gunsmiths that can work on revolvers.