Too lazy to mail $6.00/month Health Insurance premium!

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40,000 in Oregon lose health insurance

By The Associated Press




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EUGENE, Ore. — Roughly 40,000 poor people have been dropped from the Oregon Health Plan this year because of their failure to make monthly premium payments, some as low as $6 a month.
The departure of more than one-third of the 88,000 poor people from the state-subsidized Oregon Health Plan Standard program has far exceeded the expectations of many state officials.

Advocates for the poor say the premiums are too expensive for some people and the government may have overestimated the ability of people to mail a check.

"It's an enormous barrier," said Ellen Pinney, director of the Oregon Health Action Committee. "Let alone the $6, there is the whole issue of writing a check or getting a money order, putting it in an envelope with a stamp and putting it in the mail to this place in Portland that must receive it by the due date."

Those dropped can return after six months. The first wave of people barred from the Oregon Health Plan Standard will be eligible to return to the plan next month, and groups such as Pinney's are urging the state to make the process easier by allowing participants to pay cash in person at social-services offices.

Rep. Jeff Kruse, a Sutherlin Republican who helped design the premium and copayment schedules for enrollees, said he hasn't been surprised by the drop.

"It wasn't something we were trying to do, but it's something we knew would happen," Kruse said.

Kruse said enrollees who have lost coverage because they didn't pay their premiums are being forced to change the way they view the program.

In the past, people signed up for coverage when they were sick or hurt. Paying premiums was always viewed as optional, because people who were kicked off could sign up again any time a need for medical care arose, Kruse said.

"It's not that I wish people anything bad, but there needs to be consequences for not living up to the responsibility that we've put into it," he said. "And that's why we have the six-month disenrollment."

Oregon Health Plan Standard is a slimmed-down version of the state's health-insurance program for low-income residents. About 15 to 20 percent of the Health Plan's participants are in the standard program, which is for adults who aren't blind, disabled, elderly or pregnant and who are below the poverty line, which is $748 a month for an individual and $1,010 for a couple.

State statistics show that most enrollees are about 40 percent below the poverty level and tend to be jobless and often homeless and have a high prevalence of mental illness and drug or alcohol abuse.




read the part about how hard it is to mail a letter once more... :cuss:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001775719_healthplan27m.html
 
"It's an enormous barrier," said Ellen Pinney, director of the Oregon Health Action Committee. "Let alone the $6, there is the whole issue of writing a check or getting a money order, putting it in an envelope with a stamp and putting it in the mail to this place in Portland that must receive it by the due date."

Ellen Pinhead is more like it.

Takin' the notion of victimhood to new lows...
 
"It's an enormous barrier," said Ellen Pinney, director of the Oregon Health Action Committee. "Let alone the $6, there is the whole issue of writing a check or getting a money order, putting it in an envelope with a stamp and putting it in the mail to this place in Portland that must receive it by the due date."

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Somehow, some way, I manage to overcome this 'barrier' each month as I pay my bills. I think that Ellen is a closet elitist. She thinks these people are too dumb to mail in a damned letter.
 
Just to kick this in....

Anyone here know exactly how expensive it can be for a person of moderate to low income to have a checking account at a bank?

The fees can be crushing to the point of being predatory.

I'd not be at all surprised to find out that many of these people don't have checking accounts simply because they can't afford the $10 to $50 a month fees that some banks charge for accounts of modest means.


As for actually stamping the envelope and mailing it, yeah, the woman's an idiot.
 
Mike-

For certain purchases that I make, for purposes of timely clearing or because it's not my bank's or the gov't business how much Unique I buy (not alot, it's just the principle of the thing), I pay something like 90 cents apiece on occasion for postal money orders.

Seems doable for just about anyone who wants to be insured...
 
$748 a month for an individual plan doesn't sound like all that good a deal to me. These people can't find private plans for less that $750 a month?? Sounds like they need some insurance competition out there.

- Gabe
 
GRD - the $750 is the max income to qualify.

Mike - not sure how it is 'round your parts, but even back when I was a poor-as-dirt student, my checking/savings account cost me something like $2.00 a month.

Not "crushing" by any definition.

That quote from Ms. Pinhead is one of the best examples of liberal elitism and condescension I have seen in a long time
 
Yeah, that $6 a month cuts into the cheetohs and Mad Dog 20-20 budget quite a bit, don't it?
 
Dorrin,

How long has it been since you were a student?

The situation has changed dramatically even in the last 5 years regarding fees and costs as smaller banks, that have to work hard to be competitive, are gobbled up by the large conglomerates.
 
There must be a lot of heavy competition for checking accounts here in Tulsa, because virtually every financial institution is offering free checking accounts, many with no minimum balance requirements...
 
Here in Maryland almost every bank has free checking, too.

However, point that out to Ms.Pinhead and I'm sure she'll mumble something about the credit checks and Chex Systems check to open accounts discriminates against the poor.

If she doesn't think they can master the highly complicated task of mailing a letter, a poor person that could manage a checking account would be the equivalent of a MENSA member.

(Chex Systems will point out excessive bounced checks in the past, and any accounts that were force closed by the bank due to poor handling).
 
Tulsa does look to be pretty good. A quick review of the largest banks in that area shows that there are checking options.

The options in the DC metro area also appear to be better now now than they were 5 years ago.

So, barring lack of checking accounts, those lazy bastards. :D
 
During the time that these people do not belong to the program, can they just bop into the emergency room for whatever and qualify for free care at that time?

emc
 
There are several major, national banks in Oregon that offer free checking accounts.
True, honest-to-God free checking with no hidden fees or charges. That is not a problem.
Even I, an umemployed engineer running out of cash, was able to open one a few weeks ago, no questions asked.
 
In the past, people signed up for coverage when they were sick or hurt. Paying premiums was always viewed as optional, because people who were kicked off could sign up again any time a need for medical care arose, Kruse said.
I think this statement is key. It seems they had no problem sending payments when they needed it.
[cheap cliche' ripoff]Necessity is the Mother of Motivation[/cheap cliche' ripoff]
 
Pisses me off.

Giving up a couple of 40 oz'ers a month should not be a burden to qualify for health care coverage.

I work and dont' have coverage!!! ... cept maybe the Veteran's Admin if I were hurt or taken ill.
 
There are several major, national banks in Oregon that offer free checking accounts.

The situation has changed dramatically even in the last 5 years regarding fees and costs as smaller banks, that have to work hard to be competitive, are gobbled up by the large conglomerates.

Two words: WASHINGTON MUTUAL.

No fees, not even to see a teller. Granted they won't get checks until they pay 15 bucks out of their pocket, but come on here! I was dirt poor and I STILL could afford the checking account.

OHP Plus is what my partner is on due to being on medicare and social security disability.
 
Who the heck pays for a checking account??? It's called a Credit Union. Mines free. Requires a $50 minimum savings account balance though.
 
I have had checking accounts with four institutions here one of them a credit union and the other were national chains. I have YET to have a checking out that charged me fees for anything other than overdrafts and money orders. Asside from all of that all the people i know without accounts manage to scrape together the fee to purchase money orders when its time to pay a bill. I think the fact here is that a number of poor people are poor for a REASON, in some cases that reason is laziness/drug use/alchoholism. In that case is doesnt suprise or concern me that some people cant manage to get their check out.
 
Dude, I spaced it off after this really kick-??? batch of hash, rock, and meth we did. I barely had enough energy to lick some tabs, let alone a stamp. $6 man? No way. I could buy a 12 pack of Beast and some Doritos for that. :D
 
Nine grand per year for 2 adults over 50 and a student. Two thou deductible. Blue Shield. Where is my crying towel for the poor downtrodden I am supplying health care (short of $6/mo)?
 
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