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memphisjim said: "i know revenge for all you jay haters
hes a golf coach right?
who ever lives near his home town needs to sign up for lessons and then refuse to listen to any corrections he gives you
: )"

hahahahahaha ROFL!!!
 
I also get tired of the "I spent X years in the military, police, ect..". Yes I spent many years in the Army and am proud of that fact, but I don't belittle or exclude "civilians" without any military service and expecially don't forget that they might make me look like a 10 year old with his first BB gun when compared to their marksmanship.

I will admit that prior service members do tend to gravitate toward each other and even then tend to split off by branch and even then by MOS. Also, many former officers and NCOs tend to immediatly revert back to their former rank structures, either by design or unconsiously, and start issuing orders to their precieved subordinates. Doesn't work well with civilans, expecially when all those involved are now civilans.
 
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i know revenge for all you jay haters
hes a golf coach right?
who ever lives near his home town needs to sign up for lessons and then refuse to listen to any corrections he gives you
: )

Except Jay didn't sign up for shooting lessons, he signed up for a shooting competition. He is 100% right about not changing his style a day before a competition.

Charles Barkley has one of the worst swings in the history of golf, but I bet if you got him to change his swing the day before a charity event he would score worse than if you hadn't changed anything at all.

Jay needs shooting lessons, that is undeniable, and I'm sure even he knows it. I would guess when he goes home after the competition he will get a good instructor and learn how to become an even better shooter, but to do that now could be disastrous.

Whatever he is doing is working, and it's working very well. Why would he want to change that? It's not what you look like when you're shooting, it's how well you shoot.

Jay would definitely be a better shooter with proper technique, that is undeniable. It would, however, take him weeks to get accustomed to the new techniques, and that is time he doesn't have at this point.
 
Jay needs shooting lessons, that is undeniable, and I'm sure even he knows it. I would guess when he goes home after the competition he will get a good instructor and learn how to become an even better shooter, but to do that now could be disastrous.

After the competition, he got some lessons from Chris Tilley and JJ and completely changed his shooting style...how many folks can say they were taught shooting by two guys on the United States USPSA Shooting Team
 
The thing about Jay Lim is that he's a better shot shooting totally "wrong" than I am shooting totally "right."

So... who's really wrong?
 
It should be noted that Jay is an Olympic air pistol and air rifle shooter as well, more than "just" a golf instructor for sure :)

That said I am rooting for the country dude on the red team, seems chill and well versed in serveral firearms.
 
I have beem pulling for Ashley since Day 1, dont know why, but him and George were the 2 guys I picked on the first episode. At this point, i like most of them, Jay bugs me though
 
Except Jay didn't sign up for shooting lessons, he signed up for a shooting competition. He is 100% right about not changing his style a day before a competition.

what's the use of having an expert come in then?
 
It just struck me that had he been one of the contestants on Top Shots, you would never have heard him brag about his service or career, or bad mouth anyone else he was competing against.

And this is what I like about Chris Reed. I didn't even know he was a military man until Tuesday's show.

And the only thing that really bugs me about this show is how they plot who to send to elimination. I think they should just show up and shoot the target of who they think should be up for elimination. No chit-chatting with everyone about which target to shoot at as a group.
 
And this is what I like about Chris Reed. I didn't even know he was a military man until Tuesday's show.

And the only thing that really bugs me about this show is how they plot who to send to elimination. I think they should just show up and shoot the target of who they think should be up for elimination. No chit-chatting with everyone about which target to shoot at as a group.
That's basically how they did it on the first season. That's how I would do it too if I were on the show too.
 
how they plot
It isn't plotting unless they are doing it behind someones back...like what Darryl did the Jay the first time.

It is more a debrief of their performance...very common among competitors during competitions. I'm sure the winning team does it too, but their's would be more reinforcement of the positive. The editing has a lot to do with the flavor of what you see
 
what's the use of having an expert come in then?

For the sake of the show. It allows the viewers who aren't familiar with the firearms being used to learn something from the experts. These guys would get their practice in and perform the same with or without the expert being there and telling them who did the best in practice.
 
For the sake of the show. It allows the viewers who aren't familiar with the firearms being used to learn something from the experts. These guys would get their practice in and perform the same with or without the expert being there and telling them who did the best in practice.

Zondfolge said:
So that shooters that don't already have a technique on a given competition can learn. You'll note that Jay listened carefully to the tomahawk thrower.

Also note that some of the competitors have never seen some of the particular weapons used, like the upcoming Barret rifle, and are better served (safer, even) with an expert teaching them how to manipulate that specific weapon.I remember picking up my friend's FAL for the first time, and almost lost a finger when I accidentally hit the bolt release (don't ask me how :what:) while having my finger in a poor position-- one sentence from someone familiar with the weapon can avoid all kinds of scenarios like that.

Additionally, the "experts" often seem to provide rudimentary advice on how to prepare for the challenges. Hopefully the "work on your reloads and transitions" isn't really needed at this point in the season, but I'd imagine at the beginning it was helpful to the competitors.

On the Jay thing: he surprises me, but I think it's all about a complete lack of pressure. He's even said it, that he already considers it a victory for himself to even be standing there with the top class shooters, so there is no pressure on him when he goes up against them. He knows they're great shooters, and to lose to them fairly would not be embarrassing in the least.

Jay is probably at least somewhat annoying in real life, but I sense that he's mostly just the victim of careful drama-inducing editing. George, on the other hand..... :neener:
 
I dunno about all the hoopla with george, jay, and chris, but i'm definatley going for joe serafini.. The man does not talk at all and he continues to dominate..
 
I think it is funny that the "Barney Fife" underhand cup hold that Jay uses and all the experts advise against seems to be the way that all the actors use(Michael Weston in Burn Notice, Abbie, DiNozzo and Ziva in NCIS). Someone on the set is teaching them to use that hold. Certainly, they are not shooting for accuracy, but if they want the two hand grip to look more authentic, one would think they would teach offhand over shooting hand.
 
I used to like George, but he's kind of turning into an arsehole. More than he needs to be.

Pulling for Ashley at this point in time... the dude has to stay in a bunkroom with just him and Jay Lim, so that's got to earn you something.

Until a couple weeks ago, I didn't notice how freakishly huge that guy is.
 
Not a George fan at all. I do like Ashley. Jay can be cocky, but then redeem himself seconds later. It's an interesting show; It's even more interesting to see TV bloggers admit that they enjoy the show far more than they thought they would when the first one was announced, and that they've been compelled to learn more firearms truths than rhetoric.
 
No way did I think jay would beat Daryl. But he continues to surprise and he not only beat him but beat him pretty bad. I tend to root for the underdog so I'm becoming a jay fan. Also think Ashley looks like a strong contender. I would love to see jay send George home next episode. Hmnaaaaaaa
 
The show seems to be having a positive effect. I know of two clubs that are planning Top Shot Days, competition with a variety of guns and targets. But without the contrived tv drama and bickering.
 
one thing that can be said for the show, its alot better this year than last year if i remember correctly
 
I'm pulling for George in the 50 cal competition. I'm betting with his experience and training, Air Force Sniper, he'll clean up that competition.
 
Yeah, George probably has the edge next week. I've heard that shooting the .50 isn't as hard as you'd think though, but I can't say that from experience.
 
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