Traveling through Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee
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Ohio still has a duty to inform law, so if you find yourself talking to an LEO, tell them you are armed immediately.
You can carry in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol but can't consume alcohol while carrying. They don't specify a blood alcohol content, it just says you can't consume or be under the influence while carrying.
There is a lot of discussion about the stand your ground law passing, and it did but it doesn't take effect until April 6th 2021.
I assume you know about https://handgunlaw.us/ ? It lists the reciprocity as well having the laws in each state posted for you to read. I always try to check it out before traveling.
You can carry in bars and restaurants that serve alcohol but can't consume alcohol while carrying. They don't specify a blood alcohol content, it just says you can't consume or be under the influence while carrying.
There is a lot of discussion about the stand your ground law passing, and it did but it doesn't take effect until April 6th 2021.
I assume you know about https://handgunlaw.us/ ? It lists the reciprocity as well having the laws in each state posted for you to read. I always try to check it out before traveling.
Elkins45
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In KY prohibition signs posted by private businesses do not carry any legal weight other than that you can be forced to leave under threat of trespassing if you’re caught. You can’t carry in bars, but restaurants are OK as long as they make most of their profit selling food. So if you decide to eat at Applebee’s sit at a table and not the bar.
As long as more than 50% of their annual receipts are from selling food.
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Definitely inform LEO if you get pulled over in Ohio. Especially Ohio Highway Patrol!
ok if I go to the uscca map for states reciprocity with MI (https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/mi-gun-laws/ ) OH and TN are yellow showing carry allowed with my MI permit. KY is gold and it says Yes with restrictions. Anyone know what those restrictions might be?
Elkins45
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I think the “restriction” is that you don’t even need the permit if you’re 21 or over. KY is fairly normal in terms of restrictions: no carry in bars, courtrooms, police and sheriff stations, schools, churches (although there was some change in the law a few years ago about churches but I don’t remember what it was), jails, daycare centers.
https://handgunlaw.us/states/kentucky.pdf
RETG
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Might be looking for restrictions on the differences in a state for those with and without a permit. AZ for one example, has a few restrictions for those without a permit. One from memory being open carry into a place that serves alcoholic beverages is legal ONLY with a permit from AZ or other state. Might be others and other states may have similar restrictions.
As for normal in terms of restrictions is not normal in all states. UT, with a permit you can carry into a school, police station, bar, similar in Idaho.
As for normal in terms of restrictions is not normal in all states. UT, with a permit you can carry into a school, police station, bar, similar in Idaho.
Ohio is duty to inform ANY LEO if THEY initiate the stop/conversation. And it must be the 1st thing out of your mouth. My suggestion, do something like this; '' Officer, I am carrying concealed (location, i.e. 3 o'clock in holster; in glove box) and I have a valid CCW permit.'' Both portions must be articulated/spoken 1)I have a valid permit and 2) I M carrying (X,Y,Z). If you have other LOADED handguns, inform that also, there locations, cased etc.
You also cannot carry into a school zone in Ohio, if you are carrying under another states CCW
I do not remember the association with bars, or restaurants serving alcohol, never drank there.
(Relatives and friends in Ohio)
You also cannot carry into a school zone in Ohio, if you are carrying under another states CCW
I do not remember the association with bars, or restaurants serving alcohol, never drank there.
(Relatives and friends in Ohio)
That's a federal law, not an Ohio law.
That is incorrect. Ohio does not have a limitation on carry in places that serve alcohol based on percentage of sales. They could sell exclusively alcohol and it's legal to carry there, as long as you're not consuming.
Edit: Kleanbore was referring to KY, not Ohio. My bad.
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I referred to Kentucky.
Trying to do too many things at once. 
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Slight detour, but related. Question: If you are planning a trip and one of the states you have to go through does not accept your Concealed carry permit but the others do, do you leave your firearm behind? I know what I would do and have done, but legally what is the correct answer?
That depends. If the state that you're traveling through doesn't recognize your permit, but the firearm you have with you is legal to possess there, your options are significantly different than they are if your firearm is illegal in that state. In all cases though, you can legally transport any firearm through any state, as long as you're doing so in compliance with the provisions of FOPA.
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FOPA? Fraternal Order of Police Association?
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I live in KY and have a KY permit. I was stopped by Ohio Highway patrol, when visiting an OH relative (accelerated a little to quickly when leaving town). This was my first time stopped while carrying. Per instructions from my CCW class, I kept my hands on the wheel and said "I have a CCW permit and I am carrying." He had 2 questions. " Where is it? " I told him. "You're not going to shoot me, are you?" No, sir. "Then just leave it there." Sure thing.
When we were finished ( just got a warning), I asked if I had handled things properly and he said "yes". Then he said what drives him crazy is off-duty LEO's who just toss their off-duty gun on the seat and then fail to identify themselves as LEO during a stop. His comment was " when I see that gun on the seat you know where my hand goes."
He was right friendly.
When we were finished ( just got a warning), I asked if I had handled things properly and he said "yes". Then he said what drives him crazy is off-duty LEO's who just toss their off-duty gun on the seat and then fail to identify themselves as LEO during a stop. His comment was " when I see that gun on the seat you know where my hand goes."
He was right friendly.
Elkins45
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Firearms Owners Protection Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act
I never travel with a gun that’s illegal in any of the states I’m passing thru, so when I pass thru a state that doesn’t recognize my permit the unloaded gun goes in the trunk until I come out the other side. I went of a two week road trip a couple of years ago and the only time I had to stash my gun was the couple of hours I passed thru Illinois.
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So how do you protect yourself or your loved ones with gun locked in the trunk? I have never locked a gun in the trunk for two reasons. I don't have a trunk and an unloaded gun is a poor paperweight.
Yes you are correct. I never implied it was ''Fed only.'' It is Fed AND Ohio law (It ls Ohio law). However, if the LEO is pulling the OP over for the violation he/she will be 99.999% of the time, Ohio state/sheriff/local. And heaven forbid a violation was found, would be charged under Ohio law.
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Elkins45
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It depends on what are you protecting yourself against. I’m protecting myself against spending a couple of years in an Illinois prison and losing my rights to own a firearm forever.
I put it in the trunk at the state line, drive straight through then take it out of the trunk as soon as I cross into Missouri. It’s not that difficult. I can’t imagine the circumstance where I’m going to need the gun while I’m actively driving and I make it a point not to stop or spend money in Illinois.
I was a teacher so for years I was prohibited by federal law from having a gun at my workplace. Not everybody gets to have a gun all the time.
FWIW, you are no longer legally required to unload and stow the weapon if you're just driving through Illinois. https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3497&ChapterID=39
https://www.gunrights4illinois.com/blog/transport-firearm-legally-illinois-illinois-state-police/
You asked, "legally what is the correct answer?". That's what you were given. (There are legal provisions for those without trunks).
Elkins45
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Thank you for the links. I note the second one says there have still been arrests even though the people aren’t breaking the law. Looks like IL (like NJ) still has some cops who enforce their feelings rather than the law.
Yup. Following the law doesn't always mean you won't get in trouble with "the law".
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