MD_Willington
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Just to keep this firearms related, I have shot both Apple and PC computers... 
Trijicon factory site---hacked
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GlowinPontiac
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tried the site and got hit with a ton of popup messages and it tried to auto download the fake antispyware program over and over.
TexasRifleman
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Let's see....
Apple market share growth in 07 will be around 37%, the next biggest growth is HP with 16.55
Apple has 8.5% of the total personal computer market share.
Apple will ship 1.4 million PCs during Q4 07.
Nope. No one uses Macs.....
arflattop
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The key to keeping a non-Mac PC clean is to run antivirus, anti spyware and keep them and the OS up to date. I've yet to have an infection. Yes, it's a pain in the butt, but it works.
RKBABob
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Yeah, but should you really have to do all this just to keep your computer running when out on the net.
Imagine if Ford built a car that would change all of your radio presets, and bounce up and down violently every time you drove past a Chevy dealer. Imagine having to shut the car off, then restart in order to continue. Now imagine having to buy $200 dollars worth of aftermarket parts to make it stop happening. This, to me, has been the PC experience.
Thanks for the tip about the Trijicon site. I'll avoid it.
Ringer
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Trijicon is located less than 10 mins down the road. I'll drive by later and make sure all is well.
lance22
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I'm a computer programmer - wanted to chime in before the mods close this.
Most hackers view Microsoft as the evil empire so they don't write stuff to hack into Mac or open source OS's. There is a 'politics of hacking' - ask any hacker - politics is a big part of it.
Malware, SPAMware, Adware, other crap are made to target the biggest demographic. Who's going to go through all that work writing for something that's only going to affect 2% of the user base?
Meanwhile - Mac users can reassure themselves that they are a security utopia - which might be true - but not for the reasons they suggest. The bottom line is if you are getting attacked less does it really matter why?
And, a tip of the hat from a hard-core Microsoft afficianado - nobody makes UI's like Mac - and MS will never catch up to that. Still - I make a good living off of Bill Gates - his stuff keeps the business world turning and that's the world where I thrive.
[lance tipping the hat to all you Mac people].
Most hackers view Microsoft as the evil empire so they don't write stuff to hack into Mac or open source OS's. There is a 'politics of hacking' - ask any hacker - politics is a big part of it.
Malware, SPAMware, Adware, other crap are made to target the biggest demographic. Who's going to go through all that work writing for something that's only going to affect 2% of the user base?
Meanwhile - Mac users can reassure themselves that they are a security utopia - which might be true - but not for the reasons they suggest. The bottom line is if you are getting attacked less does it really matter why?
And, a tip of the hat from a hard-core Microsoft afficianado - nobody makes UI's like Mac - and MS will never catch up to that. Still - I make a good living off of Bill Gates - his stuff keeps the business world turning and that's the world where I thrive.
[lance tipping the hat to all you Mac people].
inherentical
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Some terrible advice in this thread, and pure internet garbage taken as fact, as well. I'd be happy to educate anyone who would like, shoot me a PM and I can make some study suggestions.
I use IE often at home. The key to using it safely is don't be stupid, IMO. Don't click on stuff just because it look neat or looks official. It is like believing the email from Nigeria.
Doesn't Bill Gates own a big share of Apple as well? I was thinking he did that some years ago to keep them operating.
Doesn't Bill Gates own a big share of Apple as well? I was thinking he did that some years ago to keep them operating.
siglite
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Some crazy baseless rhetoric, too. But regardless, I pulled down the trijicon home page yesterday with a text based browser and had a look at the offending code. It was a maybe 500 bytes appended to the index page after the </html> tag. It was all unicode packed within a document.write() javascript function. Firefox allowed the redirect it contained, but no exploitation.
Wonder if they've fixed it y et.
Wonder if they've fixed it y et.
siglite
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Yeah, they fixed it. The offending code's removed from the index page.
There was no "clicking" anything for this particular exploit to be effective. The exploit code was imbedded in the index page. All you had to do was visit trijicon's site with a vulnerable browser, and bam, pwnz0r3d. Welcome to the botnet.
System security on any platform is only as good as that platform's administrator. I can prove this on an abacus. Trijicon failed to keep something up to date, and they got nailed. The diligence level required to keep systems secure is greater than nearly all home users, and a great number of server admins are willing to expend. I have to admit though, it's so much better than it used to be. Security awareness in the industry's really improved in the past five years. It's not like the 90s where damn near any system was swiss cheeze.
I'm just glad trijicon's little issue was a run-of-the-mill worm/virus issue, and not some targeted thing by anti hackers. And they're out there. Antis with programming/security skills. Boy are they out there.
There was no "clicking" anything for this particular exploit to be effective. The exploit code was imbedded in the index page. All you had to do was visit trijicon's site with a vulnerable browser, and bam, pwnz0r3d. Welcome to the botnet.
System security on any platform is only as good as that platform's administrator. I can prove this on an abacus.
Trijicon failed to keep something up to date, and they got nailed. The diligence level required to keep systems secure is greater than nearly all home users, and a great number of server admins are willing to expend. I have to admit though, it's so much better than it used to be. Security awareness in the industry's really improved in the past five years. It's not like the 90s where damn near any system was swiss cheeze. I'm just glad trijicon's little issue was a run-of-the-mill worm/virus issue, and not some targeted thing by anti hackers. And they're out there. Antis with programming/security skills. Boy are they out there.
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