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Trivia question

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Oleg Volk, Jan 8, 2003.

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  1. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    I don't know the answer, either. Why is Russian rifle ammo usually packed in lots of 440 rounds? Seems like an arbitrary number...
     
  2. Kaylee

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    Are you questioning the wisdom of the Leader, Comrade?


    I didn't think so.


    :p


    -K
     
  3. JeFF D

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    Cause 22 boxes fit in the can??? Thats the best I can come up with.
     
  4. Andrew Wyatt

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    what's a combat load for a russian infantryman? 40 rounds? (i'm assuming they have two clips per pouch)


    do the russians have 11 man squads?
     
  5. Uncle Ethan

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    Easier for barter - 440 rds = 1 pint Vodka or 10 # potatoes
     
  6. Gordon

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    Because the black market cut was 60 rds?
     
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    :neener: Because it seemed like a good idea at the time.

    marsh
     
  8. Slotback

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    Bureaucratic inertia?
     
  9. Sheslinger

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    Dumb answer but...

    so that you can have a nice round number between two full mags and a full can.

    Grasping at straws at 12:30 am, I did some searching on the web and could not find the real answer.
     
  10. Seeker

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    ...'cause they gots that thar metric system over there. :p
     
  11. telewinz

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    Because Ms. comrade, the worker (elite) committee voted to change the specs on the ammo can to foil the capitalistic plot to burden the working class with back problems. How would you like to lift ammo cases all day? Remember, 440 rds to a can but TWO cans to a case :what:
     
  12. Hutch

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    Same reason their sights are calibrated in arshins (or whatever) instead of yards or meters.
     
  13. bogie

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    Because.
     
  14. Mike Irwin

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    Arshins...

    Hasn't been the case since the Soviets took over and modernized to the metric system, Hutch...
     
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    Hmmmmm.

    The Moisin-Nagant rifle used 5 round stripper clips.
    The SKS and AK-47 ammo (and I suppose AK-74 ammo) comes on ten round stripper clips.

    I'd say it has something to do with the size of a Soviet rifle squad. One can "feeds" one squad, each trooper gets X number of rounds.

    Either that, or the can came first.
    "Okay-dokay Comrade Private. If you are putting rounds in can like so, you can get 440 rounds into heroic can of People's Army."
    Bureaucrats are pretty much bureaucrats.

    Just remember, this guess is worth at least double the purchase price.
     
  16. rock jock

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    And the No. 1 reason: (drum roll)

    "Its part of the 5-year plan"
     
  17. PATH

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    Hmmmm! This is a piece of arcane knowledge that must be pursued. As we endeavor to eschew obfuscation and arcane argot on this board I shall research this matter. Without seeking to seem the pedant I will try to get an answer for you!
     
  18. 4v50 Gary

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    Proletariats unite!

    Path - "I dunno but I'll find out," would work just fine.

    As for me, my guess is that the factory machinery that canned the ammo never adapted for the 7.62 x39. That would be counter-revolutionary! If it was good enough for Comrade Lenin, it's good enough for us! :D
     
  19. Jason Demond

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    It's because 450 rounds wouldn't fit.:D
     
  20. PATH

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    Gary,

    My apologies. Sometimes I wax poetic!
     
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    out with it Oleg, what is it?
     
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    Maybe because you can divide the capicity of the mosin nagant, 5 by 440 you will come up with 88. That maybe it.

    Just curious what is the size of a russian rifle squad?
     
  23. Mal H

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    Because 440 rounds is almost exactly 10 kilograms. ???
     
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    Because there are 439 supreme ranking members of the Communist Party.

    In case of revolt, 439 bullets for the supreme ranking members, 1 for the leader of the revolt.

    In case of problems, break open a case! It works a lot better than elections.

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
  25. Oleg Volk

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    Rifles used 5 rounds (Mosins), 10 rounds (SVT, SVD), 15 rounds (AVS). DP27 used 47-round pans. Nothing that points to 440 -- yet all Eastern block countries except maybe Yugoslavia used that number. :confused:
     
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