blades67
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It's a ploy to keep us busy while they sneak up on us. Hey, who's that behind you?!
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Redlg155
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Ok..did a little searching so I think I got the water a bit muddier. 
This is from Mosin Nagant .Net Russian Ammo question area.
Packaging
7.62x54R cartridges are packed in 15 round boxes or 20 round paper wrapped bundles. After the early 1960's stripper clips and the 15 round boxes were no longer used. 22- twenty round bundles (440 rounds) are packaged in a tin, two tins to a case. 18- fifteen round boxes (270 rounds) were packed in a tin marked with a "brackets" symbol denoting the inclusion of stripper clips. The transition from the early rectangular galvanized tins to painted tins with rounded corners occurred in the very early 1960's.
The type of cartridge is stenciled on the tin. If it is Tracer, API or APIT, then a bullet tip colored stripe is painted on the tin and on the side of the wooden case. Unlike other countries, Russia did not paint a silver stripe to represent "LPS" ammunition. Instead the letters, "LPS", are included in the markings.
If I'm reading this correctly they didn't go to 440rds until the mid 60's. I'll have to approach this from a new direction. If this is correct, by the time they did the change the 7.62 cartridge was no longer their main battle rifle cartridge. The PK machine gun has belted links..so that wouldn't be the answer.
Hmm..still searching. It could be something as simple as packaging. Once they eliminated the stripper clips they could have found out they could put more ammo in a tin, at the same time keeping the same basic dimensions.
Good Shooting
RED
This is from Mosin Nagant .Net Russian Ammo question area.
Packaging
7.62x54R cartridges are packed in 15 round boxes or 20 round paper wrapped bundles. After the early 1960's stripper clips and the 15 round boxes were no longer used. 22- twenty round bundles (440 rounds) are packaged in a tin, two tins to a case. 18- fifteen round boxes (270 rounds) were packed in a tin marked with a "brackets" symbol denoting the inclusion of stripper clips. The transition from the early rectangular galvanized tins to painted tins with rounded corners occurred in the very early 1960's.
The type of cartridge is stenciled on the tin. If it is Tracer, API or APIT, then a bullet tip colored stripe is painted on the tin and on the side of the wooden case. Unlike other countries, Russia did not paint a silver stripe to represent "LPS" ammunition. Instead the letters, "LPS", are included in the markings.
If I'm reading this correctly they didn't go to 440rds until the mid 60's. I'll have to approach this from a new direction. If this is correct, by the time they did the change the 7.62 cartridge was no longer their main battle rifle cartridge. The PK machine gun has belted links..so that wouldn't be the answer.
Hmm..still searching. It could be something as simple as packaging. Once they eliminated the stripper clips they could have found out they could put more ammo in a tin, at the same time keeping the same basic dimensions.
Good Shooting
RED
Ron L
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Like the size of the space shuttle, to the width of a railroad track, it probably has something to do with the size of a horse's arse.
Thumper
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What does Schumer have to do with anything, Ron?
JohnBT
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I bet they set the machines up to make 500-round batches, but never got more than 440 good rounds out of any batch.
There's no accounting for Commie-block inefficiency or economics.
According to National Geographic, there's a thriving black market in burned out light bulbs. People buy them to substitute for the good ones they steal from work or the public areas of their apartment buildings.
Really.
Really. No bull.
John
There's no accounting for Commie-block inefficiency or economics.
According to National Geographic, there's a thriving black market in burned out light bulbs. People buy them to substitute for the good ones they steal from work or the public areas of their apartment buildings.
Really.
Really. No bull.
John
twoblink
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From all that I have read:
It's a railroad track, vs train size question;
The answer (I think) is that the tin came first; the military used tin from something that was not primarily designed for the carrying of ammo.
So they stuffed as much as would fit in the tin, that number was 440.
I'm almost positive this is why.
It's a railroad track, vs train size question;
The answer (I think) is that the tin came first; the military used tin from something that was not primarily designed for the carrying of ammo.
So they stuffed as much as would fit in the tin, that number was 440.
I'm almost positive this is why.
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