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Trooper discovers arsenal during traffic stop

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  1. Mark Tyson

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    http://www.policeone.com/policeone/frontend/parser.cfm?object=News&operation=full_newsline&id=81958

    Trooper discovers arsenal during traffic stop
    03/15/2004

    Trooper discovers arsenal during traffic stop

    07:30 PM PST on Monday, March 15, 2004


    By MIMI JUNG / KING 5 News



    TACOMA, Wash. – Troopers stopped a van for a cracked windshield, but that led them to find a lot more than they ever expected.

    Sunday afternoon, Washington State Patrol troopers pulled over a van in Spanaway, Wash. and found it loaded with a small arsenal of weapons and ammunition.

    Trooper Sean Meenan stopped the van for a cracked windshield, but immediately sensed the four people inside had something to hide.

    "Something wasn't right," he said. "Just based on their nervousness, I felt they may have been deceptive, so I asked them the question: Are there any weapons in the car?" said Meenan.

    KING 5 TV, Seattle WA

    Troopers found four assault rifles, pistols, knives, camouflage clothing, ski masks, tons of ammunition and drug paraphernalia.
    It turned out weapons and ammunition were hidden in the back along with drug paraphernalia and methamphatamine-making products.

    The evidence was startling: four assault rifles, pistols, knives, camouflage clothing, ski masks and tons of ammunition.

    "A normal person wouldn't have a magazine of this sort," said WSP trooper Johnny Alexander. "It's basically used for tactical type of operation."

    The most disturbing piece of evidence was a video tape showing the suspects during target practice.

    "What we found to be very disturbing was that they somehow had used plaster to construct human heads," and the video showed them shooting at them, Alexander said.

    The Washington State Patrol does not know if the weapons were intended for target practice or something more sinister.

    Investigators said they will be checking with other agencies and the Violent Crimes Unit in Pierce County to see if the suspects were involved in other crimes.

    Three of the four people in the van were arrested. The 27-year-old male driver and a 23-year-old male passenger, both from Tacoma and both convicted felons, were arrested for investigation of possession of a stolen firearm and being felons in possession of firearms. Alexander says a 9mm Ruger handgun found in the van was stolen.

    Alexander said the suspects have a lengthy list of convictions, ranging from domestic violence to robbery, and from auto theft to possession of stolen property.

    A 23-year-old Tacoma woman was arrested for misdemeanor obstruction.

    The fourth person in the van, also a woman, was not arrested.

    Alexander said the suspects told investigators they had the guns and other items simply for target practice, but the patrol continues to investigate.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
     
  2. abaddon

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    That's just a few miles from my parent's house! But I wasn't surprised, Spanaway's not the best neighborhood.

    I'm glad they caught them, but I didn't like his line "A normal person wouldn't have a magazine of this sort".

    Jeff
     
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    :confused: Meaning notorious "hi cap mags to feed bullet hoses", I guess, but I didn't see mags mentioned otherwise. True, tho, that a normal person wouldn't have "a" mag - they'd have several.

    A Ruger handgun, I notice. As Makers of Firearms for Responsible Citizens, the occupants musta been heading out for some post-meth target practice after all.
     
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    tons of ammo?

    While they probably were not upstanding citizens, I could not help but notice "tons of ammo". How do you carry tons of ammo in a paasenger van. :scrutiny:
     
  5. Diggler

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    I'm glad that they got these felons off the streets since they aren't supposed to have guns (or make drugs) in the first place, but do you think that the police are SO concerned about our safety that they pull us over for a cracked windshield? I mean, come on, pull people over for speeding, or running stoplights, or whatever but to pull someone over for a cracked windshield is just overexertion of power IMHO.

    Note that the story didn't say 'broken' windshield, which would have caused an unsafe visibility issue.
     
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    a statement like that is one of several reasons I do not trust LEO's.
    Glad to know that if a cop stops me, I am already guilty because My glock hold 17 rounds, for a tactical situation.

    A side note, glad those people are off the streets.
     
  7. Greg L

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    Sounds like me heading out for a weekend of camping & plinking (minus the drug stuff & plaster skulls :uhoh: )
     
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    Is that PC for a search? I'm glad scumbags are stupid and they got these guys...nevertheless, if it was me...Officer:"Do you know you have a cracked windshield?" Me: "Yes, I plan on getting it replaced" Officer:"Can we search your vehicle?" Me:"Why? The cracked windshield is in plain view, I see no reason to search my vehicle" Officer: "It's for our safety, we think you might have weapons" Me: "Well, I don't... is that all?"

    Of course officers usually don't ask to search good citizens vehicles 'cause nothing about them sets off their Spidey senses...so I guess I'm glad the criminals are dumb and say yes, It doesn't hurt to ask! :D
     
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    I'm so glad the cops are definity normality for us. Saves us all the trouble of doing our own thinking.
     
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    Consider the source. According to the AP, a Ruger 10/22 could be considered an assault rifle. A ski mask in Washington state at this time of year isn't abnormal. Neither would camoflouge jackets--many people wear hunting jackets for winter coats. The only thing out of the ordinary is the drug parephenalia, which whould have been the focus of the article in the first place, that and the fact that these felons were illegally in possess of otherwise legal firearms.
     
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    Guess I'm not "normal"!:uhoh: Nice to have the po-po define my RKBA. Maybe they will decide what books and religions "normal" people should be allowed to have?

    Did you dose today?
     
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    We now have a clear definition of what constitutes an arsenal. 4 people. 4 rifles. Looks like it only takes one gun. I sure hope that standard only applies to felons. :uhoh:
     
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    That's one for the good guys. Fellons with guns ... just a matter of time.
     
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    Aside from the cammo and ski masks, I carry more than this to the range with me and that's not even including what a friend might have if I take somebody with me.

    Except of course that I don't have any Class III Select Fire weapons so my ARs, AKs, and FALs aren't "Assault Rifles". I kinda doubt their's were either. :rolleyes:

    Still even though AP is clueless and a puppet of the VPC, the gist of the story is good and makes me happy. Good guys - 1 Bad Guys - 0
     
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    Probably is good the punks were found ...... perhaps they were going shooting paper .. perhaps not, but the drug aspect does make it seem less than innocent. The method of capture however? Well not so sure .. there again, how much can be trusted from a media report.

    Oh and ... the fave words again ''assault'' ...... and the dreaded ''arsenal'' ... which should be instead ''armory'' if they absolutely have to hype things up ...... which they usually do.:rolleyes:

    Wonder what the headlines would have been last Sunday if I had been stopped .. when I drove down to a shoot in MD? If they had an ''arsenal'' .. I dread to think what my ''payload'' would have been called!:p
     
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    Good "heads up" by the trooper's; probably saved
    some innocent lives! ;) :D

    Best Wishes,
    Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member
     
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    Chris...

    You really ventured into no-man's land for a shoot?

    Lucky you got out.

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    Its my understanding, from a LEO I knew through a friend that if a Cop wants to search your car. He will sit in his cruiser for -however- long it takes to figure out how to get a peek. Sides guys, if these boys are sittin in a van whats to keep mister Po-po from usin his maglite and lookin through a window. I would -assume- meth equipment is atleast somewhat distinct. I've also heard it smells one way or the other, and people who spend much time around it pick up the scent. the AP is full've idiots so I'd rather we not judge the situations as written by a news organization run by gun grabbing idiots. Who knows, maybe the plates were flagged or he had priors or somone else in the van had priors..
     
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    Yepp!! Twice inside two months Andy .. and ''escaped'' both times!:D

    Mind you .. it really sucks having to discard my carry piece when I cross state line ... HATE it ... !! But on return leg, once back in PA ... oh the joy, as the piece is reinstated rightfully on my hip. Perhaps makes me appreciate it all the more!:)
     
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    They sound like scum to me. I am sure the cops alarms were going off big time. I don't know what it is about cops, but they can smell a lie coming. When I was younger and not as bright I tried lieing my way out of a few situations. They figured it out so fast I don't know why I didn't start off with the truth. Much wiser now, I hope. Any talking I do with cops will be kept to a minimum. Especially when it comes to a defensive shooting situation.
     
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    Yes, and a "normal" LEO wouldn't make a statement like that. They are basically made by JBTs.
     
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    Being lied to approximately 479 times a day probably helps to calibrate their BS meter.
     
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    You really ventured into no-man's land for a shoot?

    Don't worry Ironbarr .......P95Carry was among friends down here.:D
     
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    4 assault rifles and tons ( let's say 10 GI ammo boxes ) of ammunition ? How many of us exceed this on a trip to the range ? I do but that's only because I don't like to take EVERYTHING ! :D Might have to pare it down a bit next trip...........................NAH !!!!!!!:rolleyes:
     
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    Just how many tons of ammo did they have???
     
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