Trump open to assault weapon ban....it just got real

[Yo Mama]

Looks like he's open to all offers for a comprehensive bill.....

https://www.dailywire.com/news/2770...ts-supports-assault-weapons-ban-ryan-saavedra

Wow. Went from no ban to get the ban in there now!

 

[Hokie_PhD]

Let's not overreact yet.
He's shown that during these sessions that he says things that are taken the wrong way. I suspect that he does this as it's a form of brain storming. In a good brain storming session NOTHING is rejected and all thoughts are accepted until they're paired down.

Now, with that said, while we shouldn't over react we should be VERY CONCERNED about this whole mess and what's going to come of it.

 

[FL-NC]

He's a businessman. Absent an executive order, I wouldn't be concerned. It takes much more than a president discussing anything to make it happen, and he knows it. It will be a long, bitter series of arguments, with a few token scraps tossed to the libs, if anything.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

He's a businessman. Absent an executive order, I wouldn't be concerned. It takes much more than a president discussing anything to make it happen, and he knows it. It will be a long, bitter series of arguments, with a few token scraps tossed to the libs, if anything.

We saw that with DACA. He's shown that unlike Obama he's willing to discuss anything. Then he's willing to let the process play out.

So again, let's be concerned but let's not freak!

 

[barnbwt]

Uh, he just said he's gonna ban whatever he can by regulation, said he's gonna violate due process to do so, did a photo op with Dianne Finestein, and endorsed her AWB, all on the same day.

Yeah, nothing to see here

"The 8 year assault on your second amendment rights has come to a crashing halt"
"I like taking the guns early"

Trump train is moving too fast toward gun control for shooters to disembark, it would seem.

 

[FL-NC]

Its wheels within wheels. He knows who got him elected, and he knows he has a very narrow selection of allies.

 

[DeepSouth]

Let's not overreact yet.
He's shown that during these sessions that he says things that are taken the wrong way. I suspect that he does this as it's a form of brain storming. In a good brain storming session NOTHING is rejected and all thoughts are accepted until they're paired down.

Well, unfortunately right after asking for an assault weapons ban he rejected national reciprocity, at least in the same bill he wanted the AWB in . So apparently he is rejecting something’s, but I do expect him to backpedal on the assault weapons ban, probably rather soon.

 

[Hokie_PhD]

Well, unfortunately right after asking for an assault weapons ban he rejected national reciprocity, at least in the same bill he wanted the AWB in . So apparently he is rejecting something’s, but I do expect him to backpedal on the assault weapons ban, probably rather soon.

I don't know what to think.
What I do know is that he was clear in that he said that adding national reciprocity in the bill will kill it. Personally, I think it should be forced down the Dems throat. But I'm not there to advise him.

Again, I'm very concerned about all of this but as DACA showed us talk is cheap and until something passes and is signed it's all theatre.

 

[badkarmamib]

I don't know what to think.
What I do know is that he was clear in that he said that adding national reciprocity in the bill will kill it.

I would actually be more concerned if reciprocity were added. As is, the bill is all takes, no gives. As long as it doesn't resemble a "compromise", right-leaning representatives will not sign it.

 

[RETG]

He is well known to put his mouth in gear before his brain has engaged. He likes to make everyone at his round table to feel warm and fuzzy so they thank him for inviting him. Thankfully, I cannot see an AWB passing in a bill that will be placed on his desk for signature.

 

[Wisco]

Thankfully, most things a president wants aren’t legal to implement unilaterally. Trump has a dictator mentality but is restrained by Congress and, by some of his own action with Gorsuch, the Supreme Court.

There are many reasons he didn’t get my vote, not the least of which is his past support of extreme gun control.

Due process is a Constitutional guarantee and it happens first, not second. Trump has suggested tryanny. He’s a traitor to the Consitution, but that would suggest he was ever loyal to it.

 

[brewer12345]

If he signs a bill like this he is done. The Democrats will never accept him and his former supporters in the electorate will want him gone.

 

[cc-hangfire]

I recommend that each of us - if concerned - submit that concern to our President and your representatives. Voluminous concerns voiced in a respectful manner are important in our form of government. The White House submittal website is:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

 

[badkarmamib]

Sent:

I would simply like to say that I voted for you, mostly because you were the antithesis to Mrs. Clinton's feelings on firearms. While deeply saddened by the recent tragedies, knee-jerk reactions in the form of restrictions that penalize law-abiding citizens will not have a meaningful effect on criminal actions. After all, the term "criminal" implies a disregard for the law; new laws will not change this, when the laws we have already did nothing. It is, after all, illegal to murder, but criminals find a way.

Firearms have many uses beyond the "killing machines" that media and Hollywood portray them as. The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in America. Not because it is good for mass-murder, but because it is adaptable. It can be configured to fit almost anybody, making it ideal for instructing youth in the safe, respectful use of firearms. Further, the AR15 shows up in mass-murders because it IS the most popular rifle, not vice versa.

Thank you for your time, and I hope that I am conveying my wishes that we work on enforcing the laws we have, not placing further restrictions on the law-abiding citizens that are not inclined to cause violence, but will not have an effect on the criminals that already have shown their disdain for the current laws.

 

[Kaybee]

I see the ban coming like a freight train. It has huge amounts of money behind it and lots of public support.

Even worse, and also even more likely is nationwide registry cloaked in the form of background checks. In my opinion a nationwide registry is the most dangerous because, as we have already seen both recently and in the past, that lays the groundwork for confiscation.

The background checks are coming no matter what and I wish 2a advocates would see that and push for a clean bill (that doesn't include registration and tracking) which will deleverage registration which doesn't have momentum on it's own. Background checks in themselves, without registration, is at the worst inconvenient but way more desirable then the registration that they want to sneak along with it.

 

[2ifbyC]

I’m more inclined now to view the firearms discussion as a charade. A scene from Macbeth comes to mine: Trump agrees with Feinstein’s request to throw the AWB into a pending gun control bill. The AWB is nothing other than an unsavory ingredient of the cauldron of the three witches. I can see her wringing her hands and cackling with delight. Trump is fully aware of the old hag’s ways and he has nothing to lose when the rug is pulled from under her; come to think of it, the CDP has already done so.

 

[Kaybee]

On Trump:
1. A lot of people think Trump isn't going to run again and doesn't care about being reelected, regardless he never given a <removed by moderator> about pissing important allies off, and that includes gun owners or anyone else.
2. Despite his talk, don't forget he grew up in New York City and lived there most of his life and has no personal roots in gun culture or any deep convictions about the second amendment. He ran on immigration.

 

[george burns]

I recommend that each of us - if concerned - submit that concern to our President and your representatives. Voluminous concerns voiced in a respectful manner are important in our form of government. The White House submittal website is:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

I have been hammering Representatives at the rate of a dozen per day, every day. I also have been Tweeting our President, explaining to him that "we" put him there, and if he takes away our rights, we can and will stop supporting him and his family, "who are a bunch of screw-ups to begin with". The sons Daughter and son in law, are totally incapable of even getting a security clearance that 1.5 million Americans have, "top Secret", hell I had one when I worked as a Military subcontractor when I was in College. So if Jarred can't even get what I had, he's is compromised and should be out of there. his goes down the line, as everyday he loses someone in his immediate circle. Yesterday Hicks or Hobs, the one who backed up several of his lies.
Bottom line if we pull support for him, he loses and has a good chance of being impeached. He needs a wake up call, Tweet him, he actually looks at those more than anything else.

 

[Kaybee]

George Burns please show me one time where Trump backed down from anything because of political pressure or consequences. Tweet at him all you want, if anything he will double down. He consistently turns on or drops all of his closest allies.

 

[AlexanderA]

The background checks are coming no matter what and I wish 2a advocates would see that and push for a clean bill (that doesn't include registration and tracking) which will deleverage registration which doesn't have momentum on it's own. Background checks in themselves, without registration, is at the worst inconvenient but way more desirable then the registration that they want to sneak along with it.

I could see a system of self-clearance, in which, as a prospective gun buyer, you would go online to a NICS portal, enter your personal identification information, and receive an approval code (PIN number). You would give this number to the gun seller (non-FFL), who would verify it on the NICS portal, and be given a confirmation number for his records. No record of the gun would be kept. This is similar to what Sen. Tom Coburn proposed after Sandy Hook.

Unfortunately, most "universal background check" proposals would involve running the transaction through an FFL dealer, who would have to log the gun into his "bound book," use the Form 4473 procedure, etc. This indeed could result in backdoor registration, or at least a paper trail for the gun.

 

[HOWARD J]

No comment--they would probably delete it anyway.
I will say"" if you want a AR15--better get it NOW.

 

[Walkalong]

We don't do politics, we don't do conjecture, and personally, I am tired of the chicken little thing.