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Trying to figure out when we gave full control to .gov

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by gunnutery, Jan 26, 2013.

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  1. John3921

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    a little place called Appomattox.
     
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    In the second Militia Act of 1792, less than 6 months after the Bill of Rights, the first infraction occurred. While the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, it was when keeping and bearing arms became a legal requirement.

    The right to keep and bear arms means you have a choice to bear them if you so desire and to not bear them if you don't. The Militia Act squashed this aspect right off the bat.

    So by making the militia mandatory for white males of the proper age range, an aspect not present when the 2nd Amendment went into effect months prior, citizens became subjects, albeit armed subjects, but subjects with no choice in the matter. The right became a requirement. This was done by the government, ostensibly for the protection of the new country, including assuring the government's own survival, a theme that has apparently been carried forward, but the methods of preserving the government have changed. In Colonial times, the threats perceived were without more so than within for which the government felt help was needed.
     
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    As far as I can tell, all dictators are proceeded by financial crises.

    Ironically, there are many economists at Harvard, Chicago Booth, Stanford and GMU that believe the government caused the great depression. They were just very good at blaming the free market.

    Ben Bernanke is part of this camp as well. Proven by his famous toast to Milton Friedman where he said "you are right, we caused [the great depression]. Never again, not on my watch."
     
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    An immensely edifying and stimulating thread!

    Thank you all!

    Terry, 230RN
     
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    +1 on Lincoln's actions, ZeSpectre. And I would think the second and third tipping points were when we enacted income tax and then when we hid collection of those taxes in the paycheck. Genius, sheer genius.
     
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    I'm one of those that doubts the whole 9-11 attack was caused by terrorists. There will never be enough proof to say whether our government had anything to do with it, but even with that mindset, I'd never even thought about the Great Depression being caused by our government. Very interesting.

    I'd also never heard of the Militia Act of 1792, also very interesting.

    This is all very sobering really, to know that we can never rest against tyranny, even though we have the rights we do.

    It's good to see the vast knowledge that exists here on THR.
     
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    Read the Forgotten Man. Evens FDR's own people said they had made things worse near the end. Much of FDR's NewDeal was struck down by the courts. Just took to long. By the time it was struck down people had come to accept it. Health Care will likely be the same but on a much grander scope.
     
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