Trying to get the best axe I can

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An aluminum T-ball or baseball bat gets my vote. T-ball bats are shorter and might be easier to swing in the smaller rooms of an apartment. BTW, I saw a guy whose wife beat him within an inch of his life with a T-ball bat get wheeled into the Sevierville County Hospital in Tennessee one night. And she was a little bitty thing.

Jason
 
How about a Tire thumper?

Other than that, yeah, Loiusvile Slugger. I know you said you are interested in the ax, but honestly, i feel like that's just the wrong tool for the job.
 
:evil:I vote for a morning star with pieces of skin and hair stuck to the spikes.
 
If you insist on an ax then I suggest that you get a cruiser or topper's ax. They're lighter and quicker, with 1-1/2 pound heads and 20" handles. This is the type used for ax-throwing competitions at the logging shows.
Here's the typical form, although I wouldn't suggest buying this model:
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Fireplace poker, golf club, baseball bat, rock hammer...
I just wouldn't pick an axe, m'self... they work great for swinging, but not for stabbing-type motions.
Pitchfork would probably be legal. Wouldn't recommend it, though.
 
Get a Bat,crow bar, big wrench somthing like that would be better or maybe a kurkhi machete or somthing along those lines. I work at a Industrial hardware store and we have alot of stuff different types of handles for axes and what not and different heads but we dont carry anything short that would serve well for home defense and have a nice even weight, but there is a tool that Stanley tools makes called the FUBAR its made for prying,splitting,board bending,and striking jobs it would definitely serve as a good bash weapon and it looks cool.
 
Functional Utility Bar they have 15 inch ones and and 18 inch ones and textured rubber grips one piece forged steel and tempered for strength.
 
If it's a life or death situation, are you seriously going to pick up a baseball bat instead of a gransfors bruks double bit? Come on. The bat is only lethal with the precise hit with sufficient force in the right area, and needs the same windup as the axe. The axe will take arms off and cleave the guy from neck to nethers. There's no contest for lethal force. I've seen a GB cut through car door steel and break frozen chunks of kennel meat up at forty below. It's a mighty piece of steel on a stout piece of wood. What more do you want?

I think people here just have a mental barrier against axes as a defensive weapon. I think it's just rank prejudice ;-)
 
Question on the edges of a double-bit ax

I recall reading somewhere that a double-bit ax should have each cutting area ground &/or sharpened differently:eek:ne for actual cutting & the other as a 'wedge' for chipping/clearing the cut. Anyone know about this? Possible sources of info? Thanks.
 
I love my GB double axe, but I would rather use a baseball bat for home defence... It's easier to swing It doesn't get stuck in a wall or person:)barf:), preventing more than one hit and making you vulnerable. And it's less dangerous to yourself...grappling in a small room with an attacker, carrying a double bladed axe... Not my idea of fun ;)



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If you really want something exotic, get a mace :D

This one's kinda funny
 
Seriously the utility bar is the best recommendation that I have seen on here. Good strong steel with a a rubber grip short enough to yeild in close combat situation. It would put someone down with one good strike. I have found blunt objects are quicker and quiter. Pounds per square inch is what comes into play. Aluminum baseball bats are great if you want to deter someone with out severe injury. They don't do much damge, but do make a horrific sound. For my non firearm home defense I have an all steel tomahawk or "fireaxe" hanging above my headboard, and a home made "rescue bar" by the front door.

As for that axe I want to see pics of that hollow grind it should be scary enough to deter without incident ;)
 
I feel you would be better off choosing a tomahawk over an axe for close quarters combat.

All that said, a good stick would probably be just as good for the average person. Other materials, schedule 80 PVC with about 1.25" OD (1" ID) about 3 feet long. It is quite a stick.
 
When in doubt, check it out. If you are undecided about what tools would make good improvised weapons, then visit a large hardware store and look around. You might feel like the hardware store is a virtual armory.;)


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Im telling you the FUBAR is awesome i handled it the other day at work and took a few swings with it its good solid steel and could be used as a breaching tool if needed.
 
Lots of tribal knowledge has been lost

a double-bit ax should have each cutting area ground &/or sharpened differently

Matter of taste but for myself I'll have one finer more delicate edge and that edge will be hung in a little bit for the finer control I associate with hanging in a little more - the coarser side will tolerate inaccuracy better. Some of the live in the woods or camping books before World War II will have useful information.
 
Couple of options --
at the point of saving 80K and family fury you might want to consider the following: a large ball peen hammer, a rock pick, and ice axe, a crowbar or the piece' de resistance a Stanley Fubar tool. I have a small ball peen hammer with a sharp pry bar on the other end of it's steel handle. It is the only one I have ever seen. It was inherited. The last is concealable, by the way. Many of the local outlaw bikers carry a ball peen hammer with a handle about 16" long.
 
hmmm we don't carry the 30 inch at my work the 18 each seems best for the application nice swing weight real solid and heavy axe just seems kind of pointless compared to a FUBAR to me... For home defense.
 
I have to agree with the idea that you really need to think about what you need and what would work best overall. That means not only during an attack but afterwards as well.

The Brooklyn Smasher? Really? Can anyone give me a decent legitimate reason for this to exist? Would anyone without an emotional issue (immaturity being the main one) buy one of these? If you're going to use a baseball bat, use one that will not only work for defense but as, I don't know, say, a BASEBALL BAT! If you do have to defend yourself, a baseball bat is a good thing to have around your house. A Cold Steel Brooklyn Smasher (which no doubt came with a video of Lynn Thompson smashing a Kenworth into a small round ball with it) is going to be little more than a liability. I highly doubt it's going to be as effective, either. If you're not the baseball type, go to a second-hand sport store like Play It Again Sports and buy a bat someone else has already hit balls with. No, you're not going ot chop off someone's arms, or split them from "neck to nethers" with it, but there's no doubt any reasonable healthy person can take someone else out with a baseball bat. Hard as it may seem, people are actually easier to knock down than oak trees are.

A mace? Why not just hand out cards in the neighborhood (and especially to every lawyer in the area) that says "Please break into my house so I can use my medieval weapons on you." Be sure to include your total net worth so the right lawyer will choose the case (don't want some welfare lawyer coming after you if you only have $41.25 to your name.) I was really into cool and wicked weaponry when I was in 8th grade too. I really wanted to be the baddest MoFo anyone had ever seen. The current term is "tacticool." Man, I was really bitchin' with my wickedness. I grew up (though I guess I'm still somewhat of a smartass.)

The hammer or tool/pry bar idea is a good one. Tools, like sporting goods equipment (baseball bats or golf clubs) are normal things to have around a house. They're useful, too (but I guess if I really wanted to try, I suppose I could drive a nail into a wall with a Brooklyn Smasher.) Hit someone in the head with a hammer and you're going to end an attack, period.

You said you chose an axe because you were comfortable with it. That's good thinking. Be familiar with what you use, know how best to use it. I'd have to say that I'd use a double bit axe if that was all I had at hand, but it wouldn't make my short list as a defensive tool to keep in my house (wouldn't likely make my long list either until I was really far down it.) If you're comfortable with it, that's your choice, but let me give you a question to think about: When you were in a competition, did you ever get your axe stuck in a log when seconds counted? You really don't want that to be a risk when your life may hang in the balance of those seconds.

Yes, your choice of weapon matters. Thinking clearly and rationally both before and during a defensive incident matters more.
 
Claw hammer, probably 2 in the house.
What's the obsession with ball peen? They generally have smaller shafts.
 
No, you're not going ot chop off someone's arms, or split them from "neck to nethers" with it, but there's no doubt any reasonable healthy person can take someone else out with a baseball bat. Hard as it may seem, people are actually easier to knock down than oak trees are.

Someone large and armed who is trying to kill you at the time? I think you want to do as much damage to their body as possible, as quickly as possible, until the imminent deadly threat is gone or no longer imminent. A baseball bat, whatever its merits as a sporting implement, is nowhere near as potent a weapon as people think it is. Unless your foe is sitting in a chair with the back of his head to you, there is no way to guarantee that first and all-important blow will do any more than bruise his arm or maybe give him a minor break. Look at the punishment criminals have taken from cops with clubs in the past. These things are woefully weak as even less-than-lethal weapons. They can break bones, but unless you happen to break the exact right bone and break it badly enough, that will not keep him from stabbing or shooting you.

It's long been my philosophy of self defense that you should use the meanest, most powerful weapon at your disposal to save your life. Do not compromise out of fear of what a jury is going to think. By definition your LIFE is on the line and unless you somehow stop the attacker YOU WILL BE DEAD. There is no appeal from death, boyos. So if you have a choice between a big axe that will cut a ribcage open in one sweep or a bat that might break a finger or bruise a face, GO WITH THE AXE!

Hit someone in the head with a hammer and you're going to end an attack, period.

Nonsense. I've been knocked on my cranium with harder things than hammers and not even lost consciousness, though I had a heck of a headache and bled a lot. You MIGHT drop the attacker on the spot *IF* you happen to get a good solid hit on the head. But think about it for a second. THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU. THEY ARE NOT STANDING THERE WAITING FOR YOU TO HIT THEM ON THE FOREHEAD. I'd say a hammer is a better murder weapon than a self-defense tool. You can sneak up to someone sleeping and kill them with it, by hitting them rapidly over and over again. That's not an option you have, legally or practically, when you are defending yourself. You have to expect to get only one hit IF YOU ARE LUCKY and you'd sure better make that one count!

Heck, if you can bring a boar spear into play in time, by all means gut the man with a boar spear. That will stop him better than any hammer strike.

When you were in a competition, did you ever get your axe stuck in a log when seconds counted? You really don't want that to be a risk when your life may hang in the balance of those seconds.

OK, if your axe is stuck in the guy's chest I think he has a rather larger problem than you do at that point! LOL

This business of advising people to use BALL PEEN HAMMERS and BASEBALL BATS to defend life is absolutely absurd and unrealistic. I don't think those suggesting it understand how quickly things happen, and how tiny your opportunity to defend yourself actually is when death comes to take you. You may have one chance if you are lucky, so you have to make that one chance count for all its worth. Do not compromise because of some fear of what you think some jury will do. Surviving to GET to the jury is the first goal.
 
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