TV show LOST with pro-CCW line?

[Superpsy]

My wife and I just got the second season of LOST on dvd and of course we were in the process of watching all the episodes...right around the fourth or fifth episode there is an interesting scene...

Shannon and Sayeed are kissing and she reaches around his back and is obviously surprised by something. He apologizes and takes his gun from his waistband and puts it on the table. She says, "Do you have to carry that thing all the time?" and he responds by saying, "I carry it because I have someone to protect."

I've been slowing winning my wife over to the idea of CCW as soon as we leave PRNY. After this line she looks at me and says, "I know, I know...don't even bother to say it." I thought that was interesting.

 

[50 Freak]

Lost is far from "pro gun". If you watch it some more. You'll see that the key members hide all the stash of weapons from everyone else because everyone else is "too stoopid to use weapons to defend themselves and will most likely lead to a bloodbath".

What a bunch of crap.

If I was on a deserted island and there were a group of people after me, you can be rest assured I'd have everyone arm themselves to the teeth. Strength in numbers.

Sorry for any spoilers...but jeez, I'm so sick of Lost...I've kinda "LOST" interest in that stupid show.

First Season was good by the way, Second.....

 

[Badbunny]

Not meaning to step on any toes, but... Just an outside observation:

it seems to me that you guys sure go out of your way to find pro-gun or anti-gun messages in songs, movies, speeches etc. Do you believe that everything is either pro or anti on guns?

 

[MudPuppy]

Maybe not everything, but artists have put their own messages in their work for centuries--be it politics, religion, or gun control.

I work in a medium that reaches hundreds of thousands of people a year and I put "a little bit of myself" in what I create and deliver. It happens.

 

[The_Shootist]

Lost Pro/Anti Gun?

I agree the 2nd season kinda sucked, maybe just because the 1st season held my interest.

But then again maybe I'm biased - in one scene a character holds another at gunpoint. The pistol in question? Makarov ! I was the only one at work to correctly identify it.

Even worse, later in the episode, another "held at gun-point" scene using...roll of the drums...and AK-47! Again most people couldn't identify it (I rolled my eyes at that) but to be fair the AK didn't have the trademark banana 30 rd clip, looked like a 10 rounder.

Maybe that scene on the Island was filmed back in time during the AWB

 

[MudPuppy]

Is it filmed in hawaii? Aren't their gun laws pretty much anti-american/pro-criminal and restrictive of such things as normal capacity magazines (or banana clips, as I'm sure their enlightend lawmakers know them as)?

 

[Cromlech]

I never watched Lost when it came out, because of the tremendously pretentious trailer for it. You know, the one with them dancing on the beach.

However, my brother came back home from Uni in December 2005, with the entire first season ripped onto his hard drive. He promised me that I would really enjoy it, so I took his word for it.

I was so hooked that I watched the entire season in three days (I was on my holiday from work at the time). As a Brit, I have to either wait for the episodes (we are behind you in the States), or download them from pay websites et cetera.

Guess what I do. I am completely up to date with you guys, no spoilers for me! Anyway, back on topic. I like to think of Lost as 'sitting on the fence', or just unbiased. How come, you say?

1. They do show the bad stuff like the accidental shooting of you know who, and the intended shooting of another two in the hatch.

2. They also show firearms being used to protect, for example - Sawyer and the Polar bear, which would have killed and eaten most of them had it not been for firearms.

3. They also show the use of firearms in an offensive nature, when they go out after 'the others', in a bid to retrieve their friends and such.

Personally, I think Lost is pretty good on this issue.

 

[Badbunny]

I liked the second season as well, but then again, I am pro-Michelle.
Kinda interesting to see how long they can keep the plot going, it's so complicated that it must be quite difficult to keep all the small sub-plots and what have you compatible.

 

[R.Edd]

In the first season, didn't Sawyer shoot the polar bear with a 9mm and kill him with three or four shots? Or am I mis-remembering?

 

[Autolycus]

I am hooked and just watched them all. I watched the first and second seasons in a week.

I noticed a lot of pro-gun stuff on the show as well. But it was quickly balanced by Jacks views. "I am not going to put the guns in the hands of an untrained individual" and things along those lines.

I think some of the characters are clearly progun and anti. Sayid would not give Charlie a gun when Charlier wanted to protect Claire yet he carried one to protect Shannon. It seems that was hypocritical.

My favorite character has to be Sawyer since he is honest about being an ******* and I like that. As well as he seems the most pro-gun in my eyes.

 

[Cromlech]

In the first season, didn't Sawyer shoot the polar bear with a 9mm and kill him with three or four shots? Or am I mis-remembering?

I have just checked the episode. He shoots it nine (9) times. It collapses a little bit before it gets to him.

 

[akodo]

it seems to me that you guys sure go out of your way to find pro-gun or anti-gun messages in songs, movies, speeches etc. Do you believe that everything is either pro or anti on guns?

a few things here.

I personally believe that an artist, author, or whoever always puts a bit of themselves in the work they do, consiously or subconsiously. For example, in the book series 'hard rain' (and a bunch of other rain names) any character the main character talks to more than 4 lines is very knowledgable on single malt scotchs, and can appreciate them just as he can. Be that the japanese national policeman, the stripper from brazil who is half japanese, or whoever. Same with JRR Tolkien, his characters are always smoking pipes. I think we see a lot of their personal likes and dislikes here.

second, simply unintentionally following a commonly held public misconception, like dropping a gun may cause it to fire, gets noticed by the public and re-enforces these believes. Now the creators may have no idea it is false, but sometimes they do, and just don't care.

Sometimes movies and TV make something up that STARTS a commonly held public misconception, and I think these things should be pointed out. An example of this is in Die Hard when bruce's character states that glocks can go through metal detectors.

And then there are the outright direct and indirect purposeful attacks on the truth and gunowners. One of the later lethal weapon movies was like this. There were anti-private gun ownership signs prominantly posted all over the offices. The guy with the flamethrower was refered to as the president of the NRA. 'Cop Killer Bullets' were a big part of the plot, even allowing a person to shoot through a bulldozer blade.

1. They do show the bad stuff like the accidental shooting of you know who, and the intended shooting of another two in the hatch.

I don't consider accidental shootings to be unbiased. For starters, the way they are shown on TV, they happen WAY too often, making it seem like there is a real danger of accidental shootings. Sure, take a cop show and there are probably more gun battles in 1 episode than in the average cop's life, but still, accidental shootings on TV have gone overboard.

Second these accidental shootings are never portrayed as the shooter being stupid, basically as stupid as stepping into rushhour traffic when carrying on two different cellphone conversations. Now, in a TV show if someone really did step into traffic with a cellphone on each ear and get hit, characters would make some comment about being dumb, crazy, etc, but never from 'accidental' shootings

 

[History Prof]

My daughter likes that show, so I see it now and then.

I thought I saw a character cock a Glock at one point.