Two-gun shoulder rigs?

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Hey, Cosmoline-

Thanks for the photo of Veronica with the rifle! She did at times use one.

More photos of the cast can be seen on the site that I listed earlier here. Click on "Characters" before going on to the forums, if you want to visit those.

The break-top revolvers were usually Webley Mk. IV .38's and Roxton's nickled Mk VI .455's. One of those was shown being loaded with the correct .455 cartridges. (Marguerite has used a hammerless Webley, a S&W New Departure Safety Hammerless, and (I think) an Iver Johnson hammerless like that in the story in the current, "American Handgunner" by forum member Mike Cumpston. It seems to have depended on what the prop dept. could get that day...)

Rifles have varied, but my favorite was a Sako Safari Grade.

Look sharp when they run the episode, "Trophies", where the bad guy kidnaps Veronica. His gun looks like a Ruger Blackhawk! Professor Challenger had either a true Colt SAA or an Italian copy.

Okay, back to two-holster rigs...

Lone Star
 
Carebear-

Sir Arthur Conan Doyle based the locale on a real life large plateau in South America. His book has been made into several movies as well as this TV series. No women were in the book, alas.

Ironically, some do believe that dinosaurs may yet exist on this high plateau. You can ask where it is on the "Lost World" forums, and an enthusiast can surely tell you. I think it's in Venezuela, but in the two-part opener to the series, the expedition left civilization at Manaus, which is in Brazil.

Since the series ended, Rachel Blakely played the security chief on an ocean liner that was hijacked by terrorists, but I don't recall the title. Someone here has probably seen it on cable TV. She did pretty well for a woman who was pregnant at the time. Since, I think she's semi-retired from acting, taking the "mommy road." Pity: at her best, Rachel is one of the most sensuous women ever to grace the screen.

Lone Star
 
I've read the story, I was just commenting on the fact that, in the genre, as new story ideas are needed different "others" will conveniently show up.

In season 7 or 8 of the new show "Lost" I'm anticipating a plane carrying the Harlem Globetrotters to crash onto the island. :D
 
carebear-

I concur, but was hoping for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders instead of the Globetrotters...:D

I have just been admonished by a lady from the "Lost World" board who checked this thread that Rachel B. wasn't yet pregnant in, "Counterstrike", about the ocean liner. I'm sure she's correct: she stores all sorts of such trivia, ready to hand. In fact, the movie was filmed in 2001, and "The Lost World" may have stlll been in production; she may have made, "Counterstrike" during the off-season. Just don't recall. (CAP, if you see this, thanks for the correction.)

But as far as I know, Ms. Blakely isn't currently acting, at least in programs seen in the USA.

Jennifer O'Dell, however, is American, and is back home and doing very well.
And, by gum, I DO know that SHE is now pregnant. She announced it at the "Lost World" convention in California this summer. "General Hospital" had to shoot her scenes to conceal that. I believe she plans to resume acting as soon as the child is old enough. I'm sure this will interest her fans who haven't heard.

Lone Star
P.S. I am now advised that, "Counterstrike" wasn't released until 2003, the year that Rachel Blakely gave birth. That's what confused me about the sequence.

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I could be wrong, but I don't think Galco made the Last Man Standing Holster.

However, a copy of the custom made rig worn by Willis is made and sold by Idaho Leather Company.

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This company makes a double gun rig:
http://www.survivalsheath.com/holsters/index.htm

"Dual Gun Shoulder Rig

You may be a fan of John Woo movies, ambidextrous, or a DEA agent, this rig carries two guns for immediate use. Some may call it the "New York Reload", I just call it easy access to firepower. Mix and match to your specs, this rig balances out nicely for all day comfort and instant reserve firepower. These two weapons below are the approved pistols for a police department, and the individual was looking for a way to carry them both with maximum comfort. No thumb breaks to engage, yet maximum security and great adjustable retention."
 
BluesBear I am just going on what a Galco representative told me so you may well be right.
I do know that they,(Galco), will produce a double horizontal rig with magazine pouches mounted vertically on the tie down straps because they built one for one of our customers.
It was cut to fit a pair of engraved Colt Officers pistols, russet color leather, suede lined, it looked super!
I really should photograph some of this stuff before it goes off to its happy home!
The double rig in your picture makes me all warm and fuzzy!
 
I like that "Last Man Standing" rig. You don't see enough vertical rigs like that anymore. I'm not sure about how concealable it would be, though. Does it come with 1911's that lift people up off the ground? Cause I want those.

I posted the pic of Veronica not only for her rifle but for her own fancy two-gun rig :D That show has little enough to do with the book, but it is a great excuse to bring out the pirate, zombie and ninja costumes. And I gotta say the prop men do a lot better than I'd expect. The occassional Ruger aside, they do largely stick with break tops and Mauser pattern rifles. The little H&R is a nice touch, too. Don't see those very often.
 
Cosmoline-

Drop on by www.lostworldtv.net and look at the pix of Veronica under, "Characters". There are also two short videos, but my computer won't play Veronica's, although it will play the ones with Marguerite. ???
One of the pix of Marguerite shows her holster. It's quite stylish...

Veronica's several outfits sometimes reveal more or less of her "two-gun outfit". She does have a "nice pair"!

Jen O'Dell is a much better actress than this show let her demonstrate, but in later seasons, you can see her development (acting skills!) improve. She often uses facial expressions very effectively.

Have you seen the photo of the two girls that originally ran in , "FHM"? Jen is lying down in a silver one-piece outfit, and Rachel is kneeling, in a brief brown bikini. Surprisingly, Rachel had the better figure! It's offered somewhere on the Net, but I don't know the link. Maybe someone will help.
Or, ask on the "Lost World" board. In fact, I'll ask today. Someone may post the answer.

See the thread there (Message Boards) on the two-gun outfit. I've answered one lady's questions about pistols pretty well, I think, and I love to see the female members ask about guns. That board is probably the only place where many will see pro-gun data. The show did very well in portraying armed heroes.

I loved your quip about Veronica's "two-gun outfit"!

Lone Star
 
COSMOLINE AND CAREBEAR-

Beat feet over to the "Lost World" forums, under "Talk About the Lost World": the first forum after the News one. I think it's the second forum down.

One of the German members has posted a link to that photo I mentioned. Just click on it. I think you'll agree that it was worth the visit...:cool: Very kind of her. It's amazing what the members of that forum can come up with, and there's a strong sense of family among us on that board.

Never mind the relative grousing from another female member; she's just jealous of Jen and Rachel. :p

Lone Star
 
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Onmilo mentioned:
(Galco) will produce a double horizontal rig with magazine pouches mounted vertically on the tie down straps because they built one for one of our customers.
More information on that PLEASE.

I would very interested in getting a rig like that.

How did they attach the pouches? Some sort of connection where the tie-down snap is usually located?

Yes, from now on please do take pictures of things like that.
 
COSMOLINE AND CAREBEAR- Beat feet over to the "Lost World" forums, under "Talk About the Lost World": the first forum after the News one. I think it's the second forum down.

Yes, I agree, the brown color certainly doesn't favor rachel's skin tone or something...... :rolleyes:

What's that smell? Am I in Ellensburg (Washington)? :D

I may not know art, but I know what I like. :p
 
Carebear-

Yeah, I THOUGHT you might enjoy that photo...

Dunno about that town that you mentioned in Washington. Does it smell as bad as Washington, D.C., or what?:D

CAP aside, the members who commented seemed to understand just fine why men like the picture. I personally think it's not very good of Jen, but Rachel is well shown, no pun intended.

Members on the forum come from some 12 countries, which demonstrates the appeal of , "The Lost World". The better shows are really pretty good. The ones where Roxton and Marguerite are playing the roles seriously and are in danger together may be the best. The chemistry between Will Snow and Rachel is wonderful. (Oddly, although they're good friends in real life, both are with other mates. They just play their roles well.)

Lone Star
 
Carebear-

Yeah, it makes sense...

I once worked in security at a slaughterhouse. The smell was awful. Dan Rather and the Kerry campaign weren't even in town!

I suspect you're inferring that one lady's comments are BS. I quite understand. She and several other women on that board can be a little ...intense...much of the time. Overall, I think they just have strong personalities and are rather feminist. In the main, they mean well. I think. Most of the time. She did help establish when, "Counterstrike" was released. She knows EVERYTHING about the show, the cast, etc.

The thing that bugs some of the men there (they've sent me Personal Messages, to avoid riling certain parties) is that many women there rave about Roxton or Malone with their shirts off, then react in a prissy manner when a guy comments on how hot Rachel, Jen, or Lara Cox (played Finn in Season Three) look.

I hope Cosmoline doesn't think we've taken this thread too far off course. At least, he appreciates, "The Lost World's" appeal.

Lone Star
 
Blues Bear-

Thank you for the graphics. Unfortunately, the "Lost World" board isn't configured to allow posting them, probably because the series producers wanted control over any photos to appear there. That's the Official Forum.

So, I posted a message telling members there of your generous graphics, and how to find them here. I also sent a Personal Message to Santa Crux, so she will definitely be aware of this, in case she misses that thread on the forum. I'm sure she will appreciate the graphic.

In the show, characters Lord John Roxton and Ned Malone carry Colt M1911's in some episodes. I think Ned wore his all the time; Roxton sometimes used a pair of Webleys, as we've noted here already. Uh, wait: I think Ned also used a Webley Mk. IV .38 left behind when another character, Prof. Arthur Summerlee, disappeared. (The actor who portrayed him sometimes posts on that forum.)

I will pray for your urgent recovery. You may also be cheered to know that I voted yesterday...the RIGHT way! (For Bush and Cheney: God Save Our Republic!) I might add that the line for Early Voting was very long. This election has aroused enormous interest, and in my area, most voters seemed to favor George Bush. I feel pretty sure the Republican ticket will carry in Texas!

Lone Star
 
Lone Star, please extend an invaation from me to Santa Crux and the others on The Lost World forum to visit and reguster over here.

The more the merrier. They seem to be intelligent and articulate people, It would be a pleasure to have them here.

I had just become hooked on the early morning episodes of The Lost World, when three of the FOUR satillite channels we had here in "the home ". But after being here less than three weeks they were disconinued. ARRRGH. After losing TNT, TBS & CNN I was left with only A&E which was gone two weeks later.

One of the nurses here saw me reading my gun books and started asking me about guns. It seems that she knows almost nothing about guns but can tell me the exact model of every gun carried by anyone on The Lost World. It was the responsible use of firarms on that program that mad her rethink her opinions about gun control. I think The Lost World caused he to sit on the fence and I think I helped lift her off and onto the correct side.

If you haven't watched The Lost World you should start. It's a good way to break the ice about gun discussions. The simple fact that th guns are carried a lot more than they are fired gives a realisting overview of how guns are normally used. It also illustrates the NEED for adequate personal protection for survival in any society.
 
Blues Bear-

I'll go make that post right now, before I leave for work.
The amazing thing to me is how well the non-English-speaking members on the "Lost World" board function in our language.

One even told me today how to manipulate a US keyboard to employ umlauts and Spanish accent marks, so that I can spell correctly when using words in those languages.

Get well. I am seriously sorry to learn of your lost cable capability. Bummer...

Lone Star
 
I wanted to try a dual gun shoulder rig too so I bought 2 Ace Case nylon shoulder rigs and just snapped them together as a dual rig (they`re modular). I fully expected them to be utter crap and normally steer far clear of nylon holsters but I was suprised to find that it`s actually very comfortable and works pretty darn well. The shoulder straps are so wide they`re actually triangles. They spread the weight out quite nicely and lay nice and flat. The only thing I really didn`t care for was that the thumb break straps mount with velcro. I just set them where I wanted them for the guns I use and sewed them in place. Each holster has an elastic belt strap too. I originally got it to carry my S&W 1006 and S&W 4053. It wasn`t perfectly balanced with that combo but it was MUCH better than the 1006 and 2 mags on the offside. I`ve picked up a few extra holster for it so now I can carry 2 CZ-75Bs or a CZ-75B and CZ-40P(with or without the M3 Tactical light) etc. I almost never wear it but when I do it`s pretty comfortable and conceals them under a light jacket or untucked flanel shirt better than you might think. It`s probably a bit hard to defend in court though if, God forbid it ever came to that! ;) Generally if I have the urge to carry in a shoulder rig it`s my ultralight Ken Null SMZ rig and Kahr P-40. Marcus
 
lord roxton shoulder holster

lone star

do you know who made the rig roxton wore on the last season
 
Well, THERE'S an old thread! Fortunately, Hotmail alerted me to it...

Alas, I don't know who made those holsters or the others used on, "The Lost World". We fans never had much rapport with the prop people, although they did eventually sell all of the guns, including some rubber models.

Roxton's rifle was said to be a .416 Rigby, but when I queried if it was a genuine Rigby, the prop guy, who wasn't an armorer, couldn't say.
The nickled Webley MK VI's with white grips were used by Roxton in the last couple of seasons, although he also used the .45 auto, as late as the final show, the Third Season cliffhanger. If you saw that, you may recall that he had it in his hand as he put his arm around Marguerite while they were fleeing the Spaniards, who thought that he was his ancestor, an Elizabethan "sea dog".

I was able to get good views of the prop guns, and Marguerite had an Iver Johnson copy of the S&W hammerless revolver much of the time. She also probably had a hammerless Webley a time or two, and I think an actual S&W New Departure Safety Hammerlss. In one scene, where she was seized by Druids before she coul fire, the had a Webley MK. III .38, with a conventional hammer. It semed to depend on what the prop house had on a given day.

HOwever, Ned Malone and Roxton had the .45 autos, Roxton also had the Webleys, and Prof. Challenger wore a Colt .45 SAA or Italian copies. In one case, it was a Ruger Blackhawk. If you see the episode, "Finn", look carefully when Finn holds him up and he passes the gun to her. He later rescued her from her plight, and she returned to the Treehouse with him and the Roxtons, after killing her betrayer with her nasty little crossbow.

The holsters were very stylish, and looked much like the old Bianchi flap holster, I think Model 16. I have read that Hellwig makes such rigs. The series was filmed in Australia, so that seems likely as the source for the holsters.

Some years ago, I tried to learn who had made the knife in the "Crocodile Dundee films. I did get an answer, but not a very satisfactory one. A woman who answered said that the star had the blade made by some man he knew, and the handle by another. If they had had that info made available to their PR people, I could have goten the movies some nice press in US knife magazine,s for which I write. I also wanted very much to get a story done on the "Lost World" guns, but again the producewrs didn't seem to care. They may really have wanted to avoid much gun-oriented covereage, lest it upset liberals in the industry. I was able to indentify a few knives on, "Lost World", though.

I'm sorry that I can't give a better answer. That show has a VERY loyal fan base in some 14 countries, and I think it is stiill being shown in Eastern Europe. We have members on a fan board who see it in Serbia, Austria, the Czech Republic, The Netherlands, and Latvia, among other countries. The chemistry between the cast was wondewrful to behold, and that and the high production standards raised, "Lost World" well above most syndicated TV sseries. I very much miss it.

That said, the Fourth Season was going a little too far off the track I wanted, according to info released by the Executive Writers, Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens. They "assist" William Shatner in his "STar Trek" books, and are big "Trek" fans, and they wanted to send Challenger to Mars and some other far-out stuff. There is a good chance that Finn, one of my favorite characters, wouldn't have survived that season, had it come to pass.

This is far you asked, but that show,is the only "fandom" in which I've ever been involved, and I sensed that you might also be a fan.

Now,about the cast and what wonderful people they are: We have a fan board member who broke his neck in a swimming accident while visiting Australia. When we got the word, Michael Sinelnikoff (Prof. Summerlee in the First Season) and Jennifer O'Dell (Veronica) personally telephoned him, and Rachel Blakely, who played Marguerite, actually DROVE an hour from her home to visit this guy in hospital in Brisbane! Thankfully, he seems to be recovering well, and I pray that he will regain full use of his body. That visit from Ms. Blakely thrilled him, of course, and was so kind of her, especially as she is now busy filming a new series, where she plays the mom of some teens in a family situation comedy. ("Mortified", not seen in the USA.)

The actors didn't know zip about guns,and weren't able to answer questions about them at the conventions, so that won't get the answer you wanted. I tried.

My computer is malfunctioning in typing and some of the above may be misspelled. I can't correct it.
 
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This is to apologize for the misspellings in my post above. Sometimes, my computer goes nuts, and won't let me correct errors. I think the fouled-up words will make sense if you look at the whole sentence.

I would post on the Official forum for, "The Lost World" for you, but have already asked gun questions there, and the producers never provided an armorer to answer them, and the cast hadn't a clue, although they are very nice people.

In fact, in the Liberty (only) edition of the First Season DVD, one gets coverage of the first Convention and some bloopers. In one blooper, Will Snow fouled the muzzle of the Rigby in electrical cords twice in one scene, and complained that it was heavier "than that plastic rifle" and that he wasn't used to handling it yet. The plastic rifle in the pilot movie, which became the first two shows of the series, was an abomination, a child's toy, I think. I was glad to see them get a real rifle, built, I think, on an Enfield P-14 or P-17 action or the Remington M-30 sporting rifle. The safety is very distinctive.

Well, there's the 'WAY long non answer to your nice question. :D

I guess that if you watched the DVD's and sketched the shoulder holster rig carefully, El Paso Saddlery or another custom leather house could replicate the holsters. But frankly, I don't think it was a practical rig. It was just meant to be dramatic on TV. Their belt holsters, though, were stylish and reasonable.

Lone Star
 
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