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Tyler, TX shooting spree wacko fired on by CCW citizen.

Discussion in 'Legal' started by TexasRifleman, Feb 24, 2005.

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  1. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

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    Well, I looked around, and can't believe there's not a thread on here yet.

    Here is the story as available on the 'net:

    Tyler Shooting

    Channel WFAA TV here in Dallas just aired a press conference where the local PD gave a statement that the perp was shot at by a private citizen who happened to be CCW near the Courthouse at the time, there still isn't a clear story on whether the CCW hit the guy or not or whether that citizen is among the dead or wounded.

    We'll see how much of that gets to the mainstream media, but the officials in Tyler made certain to point out that he was licensed to carry, and trained.

    Good job, whoever you are! Thanks for at least trying to help.
     
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    Heroic Concealed-Carry Licensee Killed in Shootout in Texas

    GUNMAN OPENS FIRE AT COURTHOUSE
    IN DOWNTOWN TYLER


    Two killed, three wounded in Texas shooting

    A concealed-carry licensee, Mark Allen Wilson (sp?) opened fire at the AK-47-variant-wielding, bulletproof vest-and flak-jacket wearing shooter. He hit him several times, probably saving at least one life - that of the shooter's ex-wife's son. Unfortunately, the hero was then shot and killed by the assailant.

    The suspect was killed by police after a chase.
     
  3. TexasRifleman

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    Update - CCW holder among dead

    WFAA TV is reporting the CCW holder exchanged gunfire with the <idiot>, and was killed in the process. Local officials are crediting him with saving lives, although he gave his own.
     
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  4. cuervo

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    Funny, MSNBC doesn't mention that part about the legal CCW playing a part in stopping this guy.
     
  5. TexasRifleman

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    No surprise I guess. I updated the link above to a local media outlet.
    Hopefully get more accurate coverage there. They just replayed the interview with the police official, and mentioned the CCW again.

    There will no doubt be a fund for the LEOs injured in the mess, maybe someone will start one for this poor guy, just trying to help.
     
  6. Infidel

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    The local Tyler station http://www.kltv.com/ has several video reports, including a witness who says that the CHL holder fired three shots and "... hit him, hit him Bad." but that the BG was probably wearing a vest and was unfazed. Another report eslewhere by a friend of the CHL holder also said that he hit the bad guy twice COM, but that the BG was unfazed and then shot the CHL holder twice COM, once to the head.

    Practice those failure drills....
     
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    Let me know if they start a fund for his family.
    I'll contribute.

    Ed
     
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    That "other man who did not appear to be a police officer" did something braver and more noble than 99.9999% of the population. I hope the full story of how he intervened comes out, and isn't suppressed by the media.
     
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    Wonder if the anti's will come out with some sob story about what can happen to you if you carry a gun. And you can bet that the use of an AK-47 in a shooting rampage is going to stir the anti's up.

    It's sad to hear that a citizen trying to protect others and possibly himself had to be the target of this idiot and lost his life in the process. He did a good thing that a lot of other people would not even think of doing.
     
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    KSLA in Shreveport reported that the bad guy was definitely wearing a vest. The intended targets were apparently the bad guy's (former?) wife and child. The wife was killed; the newsguy opined that the CHL holder saved the kid. The bad guy died at the hospital. I'm sure that we'll know more tomorrow.
     
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    That is the man of the year.

    Take home lesson to the rest of us: keep rifle in car.
     
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    Mulliga,

    Not trying to change the subject of the thread, but the anti's obvious counter to that is to ban vests for civilians as well as guns.

    I wasn't sure, but aren't they banned in CA, probably as a result of that "Heat" style bank robbery? I remember the WTO riots inspired CA to start talk of banning gas masks for civilians but don't know if that ever went through.
     
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    Hats off to the armed citizen whoever and wherever you are!!!

    Damn those who would disarm us!

    Tim
     
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    Would the first person who finds the article mentioning in print the CCW holder please post it here? I'm not doubting it happened, but so far none of the articles that I looked at here mentioned it.
     
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    http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2994393

    Mark Wilson, age 52, one witness claimed he was shooting a .45, although I don't know how he knew. LE credits Mr. Wilson with saving the life of the shooter's son, who was wounded. Apparently, the 4-6 cops and deputies who were shooting at the shooter did not hit him. They may have been further away, I don't know.

    Very comforting to hear the Sheriff say, at least twice during the press conference, "It's a free country. If somebody wants to do something like this, (the shooting), they can do it."

    Yes, a fund would be nice. Also comforting was the language used by the Sheriff to describe Wilson: "a citizen who was aiding law enforcement." No "civilian", no "vigilante"--just respect.
     
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    This would never have happened if the Assault Weapons Ban was renewed.

    :p
     
  18. SIGarmed

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    I hate to say it but probably not.

    What would have stopped it all is a head shot.
     
  19. Standing Wolf

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    I'll second that.
     
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    No Mozambique drill? :confused:
     
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    As previously mentioned, the reports we're getting in the metroplex on AM radio is that Mr. Wilson is being credited with saving the sons life by intervening.

    WBAP-820 indicated he owned a gun range and well known in Tyler. Very sad.
    At least it looks like he was of help and cudos for stepping in harms way to help.
     
  22. LawDog

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    It's still a mess, but there may have been two CHL carriers involved: Wilson and an unidentified man who took cover under a Chevy.

    More news as it comes. Local news station here:http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2994393

    LawDog
     
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    No offense, but I suspect you've never been in a real life, civilian SD situation.

    You're assuming safety drill was an option, right?
    Maybe the distance, cover, or target movement ruled it out...
    (It's a lot different when the target is shooting back, hein?))
    Even if a safety drill had been attempted, but missed the headshot,
    there's almost no way we'll ever know now, despite ANY hypothetical
    video record or knowledgeable witnesses.

    h
     
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    God Bless Mr. Wilson. Apparently he's the only one who hit the BG at the courthouse. The police finally took him down at another location.
     
  25. LawDog

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    Duplicate threads merged.

    LawDog
     
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