Tyler, TX shooting spree wacko fired on by CCW citizen.

[jke456]

Swindle said of the law officers on the scene, "They were simply outgunned. They were armed with handguns and he (Arroyo) was armed with an AK47."

Arroyo had previously told his wife he would kill her if she pressed the issue of child support, authorities said. "He came here with one thing in mind," Swindle said. "He had the act set in his mind to murder his ex-wife. He has a history of assaulting his ex-wife and several weapons offenses."

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VPC NEWS FOR: Saturday, February 26, 2005



AK-47s Used in Two Multiple Shootings

A shooter armed with an AK-47 assault rifle killed three and wounded four, including three law enforcement officers, in Tyler, Texas on Thursday, February 24, 2005. On the same day, a Los Angeles city worker allegedly shot two co-workers, also with an AK-47. Both incidents starkly demonstrate the urgent need for a comprehensive nationwide ban on assault weapons such as the AK-47 assault rifles the shooters wielded. Both shootings came quickly on the heels of an incident in Ulster County, New York where a gunman—also wielding an AK-47 assault rifle—wounded two in a crowded shopping mall.
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no mention of it being full auto but did call it a assault rifle
then refered to assault weapons....the ol bait and switch

no mention of Wilson

no mention that the perp was from what I infer , a criminal and wife beater, with probaly an illegal gun

reference to another AK shooting the same day
from this we can infer that there is 730 multiple homicides with AK 's ....

SO WE MUST BAN THEM

I MEAN LOOK .... THESE GUYS BROKE THE LAWS WE ALREADY HAVE ..... SO WE REALLY REALLY REALLLY NEED MORE LAWS FOR THEM TO BREAK

and <whisper> we wont even mention wilson until we figger out how to spin that to make CCW look bad




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notice they reporting that 3 killed.... from what I read here so far only 2 dead

also 1 of the other shootings was in PRK where they have an assault ban, an If im not mistaking , a full auto ban,.....
other was in New York......anyone know if they have AWB?????

jon

 

[c_yeager]

But in the pizza store case the guy was right there in front of them. If he were around the corner, or down the block or something then I could see just getting the heck out of there. A CCW is not a license to impose law and order.

There is a pretty significant difference between a guy who is getting beaten up and a woman and child who are being turned into riddled corpses by a deranged man with a .30cal rifle. I happen to agree with you on both counts (as I posted in one of the other threads concerning the "pizza incident") but, it is important not to draw too many parrallells between two very different circumstances.

This was a clear matter of life or death for two obviously innocent persons. The pizza incident wasnt quite so obvious. The victim in that case was badly beaten but he did survive. Thats an important distinction. Personally I would have kicked the assailant in the head myself but, I'm not going to be over critical of someone who didnt.

 

[mercedesrules]

Tidbits...

They are now calling the rifle a "Mak 90". It appeared to have a conventional cheap-looking wooden stock with a thumbhhole. It would not have been banned by the fed ban.

The Tyler ABC affiliate ran sickening and self-contradictory pieces about police being "outgunned", etc., with citizens commenting about what kind of guns we "need". IMO, someone "got to them". :banghead:

I'm on dialup so I can't preview these videos, but I did see the stories on broadcast TV last night.

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[dolanp]

What the anti-gunners fail to realize is that Arroyo was already in violation of the law for possessing these weapons (IIRC) because he had a history of criminal violence.

 

[HighVelocity]

On the radio here this morning they're saying it was a cheaply made chinese sks with a sporter stock on it.

 

[Rico567]

All honor to Mr. Wilson for what he did ("Greater love than this hath no man, than he lay down his life for another."), but that is not to say that we can prescribe that anyone was morally obliged to intervene as he did. As one contributor to this thread pointed out, it's one thing to discuss situations, either real or hypothetical, and to speculate on what we might do, but that's as far as it goes. It's only "may" and "might" until the day of reckoning comes.
Mr. Wilson encountered a situation that immediately threatened the community, and in the most immediate and urgent sense imaginable. Both as an individual and a member of the community he acted -but without any external obligation- to terminate that threat. That he was unsuccessful in no way diminishes the quality and heroism of his actions. I trust that his community will remember him that way; I know I will.