U.S.-made vs. Austrian-made Glocks?

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Does anyone know the difference? Are U.S. Glocks made on machinery located here in Georgia or merely assembled here from parts originally made in Austria?

Also, is there an advantage or disadvantage to either? I've heard that the Austrian Glocks use Tennifer and the U.S. ones do not. Any other differences?
 
^ Nope. The finishes are the same, as are the metal treatments. Glock quit using the "Tennifer" process in 2009 or so.

The only difference between US and Austrian Glocks is the US Glocks have Georgia proof marks and say "USA". I've got both, I like both.
 
A "gas nitride" process. My understanding is that it's the same end result as Tennifer, but doesn't create cyanide as a bi-product, and is approved by the EPA.
 
I believe its an outline of the state of Georgia with a P inside.
 
It's a small outline of GA with a "P" in the center. Shows up on the right side of the slide, where there's normally a very small Glock logo, on the barrel hood, and on the frame, where they (the Gen 4's anyway) say "MBS". Also, the US Glocks have "USA" on the barrel, 4-letter serial numbers, and "Made in USA" on the right side of the frame, just above the grip texture. Look here.
 
Thanks. Being an owner of German-made SIG pistols, when I hear "proof marks" I think of government mandated marks that have to do with test-firing a weapon. I don't believe there are any such US requirements so I was wondering if it was a Glock thing and if it had anything to do with proofing a gun.

I am guessing Austrian-made Glocks have Austrian proof marks as it seems to be a European thing,
 
Question since glock makes glocks here in the USA does this mean they can make the little 380 glocks that don't meet import requirements :barf:
 
wgsigs said:
Thanks. Being an owner of German-made SIG pistols, when I hear "proof marks" I think of government mandated marks that have to do with test-firing a weapon. I don't believe there are any such US requirements so I was wondering if it was a Glock thing and if it had anything to do with proofing a gun.

I am guessing Austrian-made Glocks have Austrian proof marks as it seems to be a European thing,
Some Glocks have Austrian proof marks, but the vast majority do not. Not sure why the US ones have 'em, but if you call and ask, Glock will tell you that the Georgia P is a proof mark. No one really knows why Glock does what they do.

horsemen61 said:
Question since glock makes glocks here in the USA does this mean they can make the little 380 glocks that don't meet import requirements
Yes. That is what the G42 is, a small slim frame .380 that is made right here. They could also make the 25 and 28 here if they wanted, but I've heard nothing about them doing it.
 
Regarding proofs, many, if not most firearms companies proof their firearms and will apply their own proof marks. In the US, there are no government proof houses, but that does not mean proving does not happen.

Indeed, I doubt the modern value of the proof house - tort lawyers have been very effective at safety. What does a government proof tell you? They serve more to date and establish the history of a firearm than anything else. Can we really brag about the Belgian or Spanish junk that came out during the late 1800's and early 1900's (the junk, not FN or other good manufacturers)? Utter crap came out of those, and other, countries that were all nicely proofed. What about RG revolvers with proofs from the 1960's?

Yeah, Cobra, Jiminez, and others, are crap here, but they're not handgrenades. They won't blow your hand off any more than a Glock will. A Glock that Kaboomed (more exaggerated than anything, I know) likely had a nice Austrian proof mark on it.

Am I against proof houses? Not really, but most firearms manufacturers in the US proof in house - they can't afford not to. And a proof house does NOT detect defects in triggers or drop safety or the like - a proof is no guarantee of safety. They merely establish that the firearm will not explode at a certain over-pressure level.

Again, their most useful feature if figuring out the age and origin (or pass-through history) of a firearm. A Colt with German proofs served in Germany, for example, or a Tanfoglio was made in 1989 because of the date code stamped on it, or a certain Star's age can be determined from Spanish date codes.

Glock's Georgia proof establishes that (almost certainly) their US pistols measure up to the same standards as the Austrian-made ones. Indeed, were they to publish their standards of proof used in the US (which they might have, I'm just not going to look it up), I'd wager it was identical to those required in Austria.
 
I wasn't trying to start an argument about the effectiveness of proofing pistols when posing my question although it does appear it is dependent upon the respective government oversight as your citing of old Belgian and Spanish weapons seem to indicate. I was just curious if the Georgia proof mark actually was an indication of proofing. Evidently, it is.

I have seen American-made SIGs with a proof mark (a "P" in a circle) on their barrels, but I haven't seen it in several years.

However, the American proof marks don't seem to be of much use in "dating" a pistol like the European ones as I don't see any date code associated with them.
 
And you won't as there are no date codes with private proof codes. You have to rely on published serial number databases.
 
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