jimC2
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What is the purpose of the lever hook on the Uberti lever action rifle?
Uberti lever hook?
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Carl N. Brown
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On lever guns intended to be carried in saddle scabbards, a lever hook would be included in the design to prevent the lever from popping open from being jogged bout by the horse.
jimC2
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Thanks. So, if I got a replacement, cut it flush and finished it, there wouldn't be any problem with it? It looks like something a lawyer would stick on it but from your explanation it is useful. Might not change it, just a thought. I'll keep it as is for a while and see.
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CraigC
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No lawyers, they were on the originals.
rcmodel
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The early toggle-locked Winchesters like the 1866, 1873, etc. would fall open by thier own accord.
The later locking-bolt designs like the 1892, 1886, 1894, etc. didn't open as easily, and didn't need the lever lock to keep them shut when you weren't holding them shut with your hand.
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The later locking-bolt designs like the 1892, 1886, 1894, etc. didn't open as easily, and didn't need the lever lock to keep them shut when you weren't holding them shut with your hand.
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Tommygunn
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They wouldn't "fall" open, they had spring metal devices on the bottom of the receiver that fit into a notch on the lever pivot that held them in. Look in back of the brass carrier block on the bottom of the receiver; see those two screws? There there to hold in those little "holds"; one holds it closed, the other open.
True later Winnies didn't have these. I've operated a real '92 and have a Browning B-92 in .44 Mag and both seem very close in operation and the lever did not seem prone to falling open in either.
The toggle link Winnies maybe were a little ....but not very much.
Another reason why they might have deleted this feature was they found it wasn't needed so much and it was cheaper not to install them.
Actually, yeah, they did fall open.
The Henry rifles did anyway, that's why they started using the lever lock.
Remember that tolerencing in those good old days at Winchester were more 'does it assemble and function? Ship it!' than precision hand fitting and the guns were pretty loose right out of the factory.
The Henry rifles did anyway, that's why they started using the lever lock.
Remember that tolerencing in those good old days at Winchester were more 'does it assemble and function? Ship it!' than precision hand fitting and the guns were pretty loose right out of the factory.
Tommygunn
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Onmilo, The 73's I've handled would stay closed fairly well. They were fit well enough so a flat spring metal would hold in a detent for sure.
Possibly the screw could loosen on one, and I'm sure metallurgy being what it was, the spring could break, but most of the Winnies I've seen, they worked fine .... keeping in mind this is obviously NOT a scientific survey by any means.
The '92 had a spring loaded plunger in the lever that fit into the receiver in front of the trigger.
All of this is sorta begging a question anyway;
Assuming the hammer was down or at half-cock safety (which some early Winchesters didn't have) how could the lever "fall" open? Opening the lever pulls the bolt to the rear and the hammer mainspring would prevent it.
Possibly the screw could loosen on one, and I'm sure metallurgy being what it was, the spring could break, but most of the Winnies I've seen, they worked fine .... keeping in mind this is obviously NOT a scientific survey by any means.
The '92 had a spring loaded plunger in the lever that fit into the receiver in front of the trigger.
All of this is sorta begging a question anyway;
Assuming the hammer was down or at half-cock safety (which some early Winchesters didn't have) how could the lever "fall" open? Opening the lever pulls the bolt to the rear and the hammer mainspring would prevent it.
Tommygunn
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OK, I get the idea but I would use a scabbard.... having a rifle bouncing around like that would be annoying....(to me atleast?)...... however, I've seen old photos of it being done now that you brought it up. Hey....at my increasing age, memory is a selective thing! I am lucky I have bad memory....'else I'd have NO memory! ;-)
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