Unconventional techniques, stances, grips, etc...

[sniper5]

OK, try this one for LONG range handgunning Used to use this one with my XP100: Lie back rotated to your left side. Now prop up your upper body on your left elbow. Bend left leg and roll it to the side until it is flat on it's left side on the ground. Bend right leg and set right foot flat on the ground. Pistol in right hand use the outside of the right leg as a brace for pistol/hand/right wrist. If you fiddle and work the position out it is VERY stable and the scope will steady nicely. The position was in vogue for a while back in the day for long range handgunning. I believe I saw photos of Elmer Keith using it to prove the long range accuracy of the big magnums. Be careful with revolvers, you can light up your pants with they cylinder blast if you don't position them right.

 

[B yond]

None of the top shooters do it your way.

The way "the top shooters do it" isn't necessarily the best way for everyone.

 

[rbernie]

The way "the top shooters do it" isn't necessarily the best way for everyone.

Agreed. But one thing to remember about trainers is that they are exposed to far more options, and have the ability to focus on the pluses and minuses of many approaches. It would be foolish to turn your back on that knowledge without giving it serious consideration.

It is equally foolish to presume that there is 'one true way' without exception.

One thing that THR member sm keeps trying to stress (and I'm finally listening) is that what works best for someone is likely to change over time. Not only is there not 'one true way' - what works for you when you are 35 may not work AT ALL when you are 65.

Being inflexible and not actively working to adapt to the abilities of your body also seems foolish.

 

[B yond]

one thing to remember about trainers is that they are exposed to far more options, and have the ability to focus on the pluses and minuses of many approaches. It would be foolish to turn your back on that.

Perhaps I should rephrase my previous post. I was not trying to imply that conventional techniques should be ignored or that accomplished and experienced trainers should be ignored by anyone. Those techniques gain their level of popularity because they work. I'm just trying to expand my horizons a little and get some new ideas. There are unconventional techniques out there that work better than conventional techniques for some people.

This thread is about sharing unconventional ideas. If we shoot them all down because "the top shooters" don't do it that way we may miss that diamond in the rough that can dramatically improve our shooting because it works better for us.

Think of it as open-source shooting: "Here's what works for me, maybe you can tweak it to work for you too."

 

[RoboDuck]

Tom Givens is one of the best modern day authorities I have had the pleasure to train with. I foolishly considered myself well trained and really though there wasn't much he could show me that I haven't seen before.

I think you can get his DVD online. Tom Givens' Concealed Carry for Self Defense

 

[David E]

Agreed. But one thing to remember about trainers is that they are exposed to far more options, and have the ability to focus on the pluses and minuses of many approaches. It would be foolish to turn your back on that knowledge without giving it serious consideration.

It is equally foolish to presume that there is 'one true way' without exception.

Let's look at that for a moment.

It's not like the top guy decides to do it "this way," sends out a memo to all of his competition and tells them to change to "this way" and expect them all to do it.

No, what happens is, one guy gets tired of being beaten by someone. Let's say Jeff is getting beaten by Jack. Jeff studies the technique Jack is using to beat him and duplicates it. Maybe tweaks it a bit to suit him, but it is essentially the same technique Jack is using. Voila! The "Weaver Technique" is born. Suddenly, Jeff begins winning, too !

There are many, many ways to shoot a gun. Most of them are mediocre to poor. It's a matter of degree. If you find a way that "works" for you, that's great, but you may just be utilizing a mediocre technique instead of a poor one.

You might think you're doing pretty well, until you meet up with someone using even a slightly better technique.

The top shooters all use essentially the same technique, tweaked slightly to suit. It would behoove one trying to get better to do the same, instead of trying to go thru all the techniques, from crappy, to poor, to mediocre, to good, to better to best.

START with the best and tweak from there.