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Under-valued 9mms?? Yeah, again.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Redcoat3340, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:41 AM.

  1. Redcoat3340

    Redcoat3340 Member

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    Here's the premise: Some really good pistols don't get recognition or price they merit. They are really good guns, just not "popular" and therefore undervalued and potentially under priced.

    A couple of examples as I see it: the original Sig P6; Beretta 92s (Americans really hate anything but a button mag release, just ask Walther on the PPQ M1 & M2); Walther P4 (way upgraded P38); Sig 2022; Daewoo P51; 3rd Gen S&Ws (especially the 5906 although prices for them are rising); or the Walther PPX. Stars fall into this category, although I understand how lack of spare parts makes them an iffy purchase.

    So what would be on your list of undervalued 9s? I suspect Ruger....but I've only owned 2, both .22s, in 50+ years of shooting. FN? Armscor?

    I guess I'm looking for a pistol or two to look for. It took me over a year to find the right P4. I sold my 459 and 39-2 and then bought them back (I hung on to my 5906). So now I don't really need another gun....but I kinda miss hunting for them. I don't need a carry piece or range gun...just something fun to shoot, preferably metal, and a bit out of the ordinary.

    Suggestions?
     
  2. beeenbag

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    One of the 9mm firearms that I sold and then rebought was, what I feel, an undervalued 9mm, the S&W 3913.

    In my hands it shoots like a full size firearm, yet is very easily concealed. S&W also sent me new springs and a grip retaining pin for free when I contacted them a couple years back as well.
     
  3. C-grunt

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    Sig 2022 and the 3rd Gen S&W.
     
  4. armoredman

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    Star M-30. :) Never had a chance to won one, loved the feel of it, heard many good things about it, darn shame when Star went under.
     
  5. bannockburn

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    I can think of a few: Star Model B, BM, BKM, Model 28, Model 30, Firestar, Ultrastar, Astra Model A70, A75, A100, Argentine FM Hi-Power, Hungarian FEG Hi-Power, Manurhin P1, Walther P1, to name a few.

    Loved my Walther P4; oddly enough I traded it in on a S&W Model 669. my Star Model B was another fine workhorse of a service pistol.
     
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    In 1971 I went into my LGS to buy a Model 19 S&W. He was just placing a Model 59 in the display case when I walked in. $225 poorer and 10 minutes later I was out the door. At the time, other than the the Hi-Power, I believe it was the only other double stack nine available. I was in the Army then and it sure got a lot of attention at the range. Got a ridiculous trade (good for me) for it not long after I bought it thinking I could get another when I went back home. I was wrong on that as they tended to be pretty scarce and the two or three I did find were north of $300. Found a 39-2 stainless but it wasn't the same. The 59 is on my short list now. Hope to find a decent one in the next year or so.
    Picked up a 50+ year old Argentine Hi-Power a few weeks ago. It has some issues but thanks to some folks on here I think I can get it running properly.
     
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  7. C0untZer0

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    I think any of the Ruger P-Series can be had cheap, I don't know about "under-valued". The P-Series were built like tanks, probably a lot heavier than a 9mm pistol needed to be, but then again they seem to last forever.
     
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    I believe the French MAB P15 might have been around back then too. I had one and that gun was built like a tank. And the rotating barrel design made for a very soft shooting pistol, even with some fairly hot loads.
     
  9. Alte Schule

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    You are sure right. Good call. I have never seen one in the wild though. I see the early ones are C&R eligible now.....:thumbup:

    C0untZer0:
    How could I forget my P89 DC that I kept around for twenty or so years. Like you said, built like a tank. Triggers were as heavy as a tank also. Mine would eat anything.
     
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    FNX and FNS. Stoegar Cougar. PX4.
     
  11. cc-hangfire

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    Most of the unloved makes & models that I have or have had are already listed (Star pistols - but add the Super B; Ruger P series; S&W wonder nines - I like the second gen models as well as the 3rd gens)

    I'll add the S&W SD9VE - it's trigger just ain't THAT bad, and it is rock solid reliable. It is & will always be tainted with the Sigma reputation though. (I have a SW9VE too, & I admit that trigger is THAT bad)
     
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    Only drawbacks to the MAB P15 was it's weight (I think just about every part on the gun was made of steel), and that magazines and spare parts were hard to come by. Other than that the gun was accurate, reliable, and handled just about anything you could load in the magazine, from light target loads to some pretty warm reloads.
     
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    I'd vote for the Walther P99AS as an underrated 9mm handgun.
     
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    I would say some of the FEG Hi-Power clones are under valued. I own one and it has been accurate and totally reliable.
     
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    HK VP9 . At under $500 quite a bargain IMO.
     
  17. peacebutready

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    They have the Apex trigger mod for it.
     
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    This, and the P09. Amazing gun for the price.

    Also, the stuff listed in the OP
     
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    I'm suprised the SD S&W's get so little love. They really seem to be a decent pistol for the price.
     
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    Some of the CZ75 clones out there are very undervalued in my option. I have a SAR K2P that shoots as well or better than guns that I own that were double or triple the price.
     
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    There's the Canik (or is it Tri-Star?). I don't know how they compare to the SAR K2P.
     
  22. C0untZer0

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    They've been on sale for the last week, with the rebate, for $235.00 shipped - if that isn't a good deal, I don't know what is. That's cheaper than the SAR B6P, and it comes with Smith & Wesson's excellent warranty and customer service. It even puts it in the Taurus Millennium G2 territory. I mean who isn't willing to pay an extra 35 dollars to get S&W quality & service over Taurus?

    If I would have known that the SD9VEs were going to get so cheap, I wouldn't have purchased the SAR B6P - I would would have waited.
     
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    The bagman for my local Costco carries a SD9VE :)
     
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    The FEG Hi-Power clones are good. I also like the Star Firestar pistols, so much that I have two (9mm and 40).

    While clearing bunkers in Iraq back in 91, we found crate after crate of brand new FEG Hi-Power pistols. Unfortunately, we were made to destroy them on the spot.
     
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    Steyr series of polymer pistols
     
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