Underwood .38spl 158gr +P Hard Cast Keith in Clear Ballistics Gel

[5pins]

Test Gun: S&W M442
Barrel length: 1 7/8 inches.
Ammunition: Underwood .38spl 158gr +P Hard Cast Keith (item 743)
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Velocity average: 1035fps

https://general-cartridge.com/2022/07/23/underwood-38-spl-158gr-p-hard-cast-in-clear-ballistics-gel/

 

[murf]

three feet should make a nice hole on the far side of most anything hit. can't wait for the 380 underwood test.

murf

 

[Riomouse911]

View attachment 1091616

Test Gun: S&W M442
Barrel length: 1 7/8 inches.
Ammunition: Underwood .38spl 158gr +P Hard Cast Keith (item 743)
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Velocity average: 1035fps

https://general-cartridge.com/2022/07/23/underwood-38-spl-158gr-p-hard-cast-in-clear-ballistics-gel/

158 grains at 1,000 fps + out of a 1 7/8” Lightweight J frame .38? OUCH!

Good stuff, thanks.

Stay safe.

 

[SteadyD]

158 grains at 1,000 fps + out of a 1 7/8” Lightweight J frame .38? OUCH!

Good stuff, thanks.

Stay safe.

Ouch indeed. I have no interest in shooting these from a j frame!

 

[5pins]

My hand hurt for a few hours after.

 

[WisBorn]

@5pins thanks for sharing the testing. Hardcast 38 special +p. This is a viable woods carry round, even from a snubby.

 

[derek45]

shooter - OUCH

target - OUCH

WWEKD ?

 

[fxvr5]

WWEKD ?

What's this?

 

[trackskippy]

What Would Elmer Keith Do?

 

[Archie]

shooter - OUCH

target - OUCH

WWEKD ?

Light up a cigar. Maybe a pipe.

 

[SeanSw]

Yikes! I'll pass in my lcr. Maybe just the standard pressure version of necessary. Thank you for the test.

 

[Autodidactic]

View attachment 1091616

Test Gun: S&W M442
Barrel length: 1 7/8 inches.
Ammunition: Underwood .38spl 158gr +P Hard Cast Keith (item 743)
Test media: 10% Clear Ballistics Gel
Distance: 10 feet.
Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.
Velocity average: 1035fps

https://general-cartridge.com/2022/07/23/underwood-38-spl-158gr-p-hard-cast-in-clear-ballistics-gel/

Supposedly the hottest factory issue .38 ammo in production.

158 grains at 1,000 fps + out of a 1 7/8” Lightweight J frame .38? OUCH!

Good stuff, thanks.

Stay safe.

I have some but haven’t shot it.

 

[Autodidactic]

three feet should make a nice hole on the far side of most anything hit. can't wait for the 380 underwood test.

murf

Buffalo Bore has a .380 hard cast. One test showed 2-3 feet of penetration.

 

[sgt127]

That’s impressive.
Poke a hole.
Poke the biggest hole you can.
Poke it all the way through.

I’d carry that in my Ruger SP101 if I ever run out of my Grizzly .357 Hardcast.



In an airweight? No.

 

[defjon]

Love the underwood and Buffalo bore Hardcast rounds.

Very viable from a steel (even j) frame. But, your airweight or lcr won't blow up firing a few of these.

Fire a couple to see the recoil and point of impact, verify no crimp jump. You could then load them up for a nice light backup in placed where you'd want 3+ feet of penetration through muscle and bone.

I'll take the sore hand vs the mauling! I posted awhile back about a hunter using 3 rounds from a 38 to stop a griz attacking his friend. The article even mentioned the round I believe - 158 grain flat point fmj.

 

[Autodidactic]

Love the underwood and Buffalo bore Hardcast rounds.

Very viable from a steel (even j) frame. But, your airweight or lcr won't blow up firing a few of these.

Fire a couple to see the recoil and point of impact, verify no crimp jump. You could then load them up for a nice light backup in placed where you'd want 3+ feet of penetration through muscle and bone.

I'll take the sore hand vs the mauling! I posted awhile back about a hunter using 3 rounds from a 38 to stop a griz attacking his friend. The article even mentioned the round I believe - 158 grain flat point fmj.

Right, I think both Underwood and Buffalo Bore market these types of rounds as being outdoors backup rounds if all someone has is the relevant .38 or 9mm handgun.