University of Mary Washington finalizes their gun ban

[JohnPierce]

Located in Fredericksburg Virginia and with campuses in Stafford and Dahlgren, the University of Mary Washington is undeniably part of Virginia’s strong commitment to excellent public colleges and universities.

Unfortunately, UMW (which prides itself on being named after the mother of George Washington), has joined many of Virginia’s other fine public institutions in the very un-American act of rendering adult students, faculty, and staff defenseless.

In today’s Virginia Register, UMW’s finalized campus gun ban was published (putting it into full force and effect). Codified at 8VAC55-10 through 8VAC55-30, the prohibition reads:

Excerpt ... Read more at http://monachuslex.com/?p=2130

 

[smalls]

What are Virginia's laws regarding campus carry?

 

[calaverasslim]

all this wishy washy, mumbo jumbo, put forth by any and all anti gun businesses and schools could be done away with if the judges weren't so wishy washy themselves and afraid to stand up and be counted. State and local judges are elected and they don't want to alienate a segment of voters so they are afraid to render a pro-gun judgement and stand up to the politically correct crowd.

Until that changes, this question will never be resolved.

The The Federal Supreme Court justices are just a guilty as the others I have mentioned.

 

[bogon48]

People got concerned after the VA Tech massacre. Anyway, Colleges and Universities can create regulations that trump VA's concealed carry law. You also need to consider K-12 schools, if you carry a firearm. I don't have my VA gun law book with me to reference the exact parts of the code, but here's a quote from the NRA.

"It is unlawful to carry any firearm at any time in any elementary, junior high, or high school, or on such school property or discharge a firearm on school grounds or within 1,000 feet of school property, except as part of the curriculum or other school-sponsored program of any organization permitted by the school. Firearms may be possessed in a vehicle if unloaded and locked in a closed container or vehicle trunk."

"Any person with a concealed handgun permit may carry a concealed handgun onto school property while in a vehicle to drop off or pick up a child, only if the permit holder remains in the vehicle with the handgun completely concealed."

 

[gojuice101]

I've never actually been to Mary Washington, but living in the area (about 20 minutes away), it definitely has a reputation as a "prep" school, so to speak. Guess its not surprising then that they adopt measures like this. Seems like more and more schools are doing that though.

I seem to remember several serious crimes being committed on the school grounds and the surrounding area. Definitely not a place I'd want to be unarmed (of course, that's Fredericksburg in general, for me.)

 

[bikerdoc]

I got both my bachelors and masters at night way back in the day when nobody cared. Sigh, times have changed.

 

[k_dawg]

Located in Fredericksburg Virginia and with campuses in Stafford and Dahlgren, the University of Mary Washington is undeniably part of Virginia’s strong commitment to excellent public colleges and universities.

I am not sure how much of a 'strong commitment' it is, when they'ld rather a girl attending college be raped, than to have the audacity in legally carrying a concealed firearm/tazer/pepperspray and have at least the hope to defend herself.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

I am not sure how much of a 'strong commitment' it is, when they'ld rather a girl attending college be raped, than to have the audacity in legally carrying a concealed firearm/tazer/pepperspray and have at least the hope to defend herself.

Even if she could, she probably wound not. Most (male and female) don't bother with learning any sort of self defense, period.

But the issue really isn't about "girls" is it? That is just a way of trying to add an emotional component into the argument, in place of logical reasoning, in order to get a male-based gut level reaction. I have no doubt you would not be happy if they just allowed "girls" to carry weapons and not "boys." What is to keep "boys" from being raped, huh?

 

[k_dawg]

It may not be 'politically correct', but females tend to be targetted more.

At least with respect to this college. At Penn State, we'ld use the males as the example.

And it isn't about adding 'emotion'. It is all about boiling down all the rhetoric to the actual consequences of the insanity of those who claim they are about 'safety'. That is just one of the direct consequences of this 'policy'.

 

[k_dawg]

We can only preserve and defend the rights of others. They can always choose to not excercise that right. Freedom also means the ability to make poor decisions.

In this case, the right to self preservation transcends most other rights. After all, what good is 'due process' or 'free speech' if one is dead?