This is Bragging in the highest order about what a bad@$$ he is, anytime someone starts telling me about thier "lethel training" I start getting a real bad impression, Guess what I have training to and the most important thing to me is to Avoid Lethel force.
You've got to be kidding. Shield, do you even know what the Lethal Force Institute is? Talking about graduating LFI is bragging about your "leth
al training?" LFI training is all about the prudent, judicious use of force only when it is necessary AND in accordance with law. You might have heard of the guy who runs it--Massad Ayoob. He's the
police officer who writes all those gun rag articles on the topic of NOT being Rambo and understanding the use of lethal force in terms of the damage everyone involved sustains afterward. I mean absolutely no offense by this, but it sounds like you're referring to police department training, maybe in addition to academy training. If you've had that, and MVPel has had LFI, he's probably ahead of you in his knowledge of lethal force and all the wonderful reasons not to resort to it. Maybe not, or maybe you've had more advanced training than you let on above, but the way you characterize LFI and concealed carry courses as encouraging reckless application of lethal force doesn't give that impression. Frankly, it makes it appear that you're commenting on matters in which your understanding is the exact opposite of reality.
"After about 5-10 minutes of my polite endurance of various disrespectful and arrogant statements and questions by the officers and detectives"
Polite endurance?
Yes, polite endurance. It can be loosely translated as "smiling and giving polite replies while trying not to laugh at rude or unintentionally funny people." I am a past master myself, having been forced to learn the art at the hands of everyone from police officers to customers to salesmen. No matter what our teachers told us when we were kids, there ARE stupid questions, and some people can't help but ask them. If those people have the power to make your life miserable in some way, you generally act polite and endure it. Hence "polite endurance."
Let me make sure I understand this--you think that because his letter about being wrongfully detained, wrongfully disarmed, and literally having his property taken by force without cause does not show enough respect to the department which he alleges committed those acts, his accusation is false, because he must have been doing SOMETHING wrong to merit such treatment?
I know attitude matters, but this unswerving insistence that anyone who has a bad experience with a police officer must have had a bad attitude assumes that police officers can't be the ones with the bad attitude in whatever given situation. That's preposterous. Even if there weren't any bad police officers, the good ones would still be people. Do you ever watch COPS on television? No, those guys aren't representative of the police (and not everyone on COPS acts like an idiot or a tyrant) but they're certainly out there. Why is it so hard to believe that some of them work in Manchester?
I can tell you right now that where I live each police department has its own character. Virden PD's character is not what you'd call positive--they have some very good officers, but also a healthy mix of overaggressive types and officers who really believe they should have the right to make the law. I'm not passing on rumors here; my own father was told by two officers that pointing rifles at a suspect along with about 8 other officers the night before had been, and I quote, " the coolest thing they'd ever done." You don't suppose those guys might be a little too aggressive in some situations, do you?
My father also had the experience (he works for the city alongside the police department, but not for it) of asking for enough gun locks from the Project GunSafe stores for each of his guns. Dad has a lot of guns. He keeps them in a separate outbuilding with steel bars on the windows and doors, motion sensor alarms, deadbolts, etc. to keep people out, and he has no children at home, but Illinois law on gun locks still made him nervous without them.
The chief of police treated him like a criminal in that conversation based solely on the number of guns he owns (no one, and I mean NO ONE could possibly be offended by dad. He knows practically everyone in this small town and I've never heard one person speak ill of him, until this Chief arrived.)
Of course, it was probably his "attitude" and the "arrogant" way he treated the Chief when he asked someone else for some of the gun locks which had been advertised as free giveaways for two weeks (the officer dad was actually addressing when he asked for the locks gave him a wink and dropped off the locks later in the day without bothering the Chief with such details.)
Actually, for all I know, maybe I'm being arrogant, bragging about my dad's cool building and his bunch of gun locks and all. . . .