Upsetting day at the range today....Girlfriend embarassed me

[asiparks]

First off, full marks for picking a gal that likes to shoot ! Women do seem to take their time, be willing to learn technique and shoot in a calm and controlled way. Every man I've taken on a first time range trip seems to think that the skill neccessary to hit 100% bad guys whilst arcing gracefully through the air, both guns blazing in slow motion, is, like scratching our nethers at the dinner table, just a skill we're born with ...
Our lass started off with a 9, but then found she much prefered a 1911 in terms of handling and recoil. Her favorite is my 4" S&W 29 .44. It took a lot to persuade her to shoot it, but after 2 or 3 rounds, she was giggling like a 12 year old school girl and grouping quite nicely at 7 yards..

Where abouts in Portland do you shoot btw ?

 

[oldfart]

I took my daughter in to Johnson Creek G.C. a couple of years ago. She had been having some trouble with her BF and needed to vent. I let her use my S&W 28-2 and she surprised me with her accuracy. She managed a very nice group about 8" in diameter at the bottom of the target in the center of the profile.
She felt better afterward...

 

[sm]

joey93turbo,

Girlfriend is shooting great!

YOU need to consider leaning back and wearing a sweat pullover with a hood tho"

Sorry. Ladies make great students and I enjoy assisting with ladies learning to shoot. They listen, they do, they are honest and ask questions. They are not born with "John Wayne Syndrome".

Oh they get to better stance and all, they view other ladies and ladies can share things between themselves that men cannot share with a lady. Like the first time one either sees another - or - they themselves do the brass dance with hot brass down a low cut top....they wear a closed top.

Funniest thing, and I had to laugh. Kid is with parents and mom is new to shooting. I mean she is shooting great. Dad shoots, mom outshot him. Dad commences to tell wife to NOT lean back and so forth.

Kid - "daddy, mom shot better than you, maybe you need to lean back". Okay, so dad in fact leans back to show mom how she looked. He shot a better target himself.

"See daddy, mommie knows something".

 

[M67]

The first time I taught a "girlfriend" to outshoot me, was nearly 30 years ago. I use the "" because I think we were 9 at the time. But it was real shooting in that we were shooting an accurate pellet gun at real targets.

Yes, women tend to pick up shooting faster than men. I don't think it has anything to do with anatomy. I am a pistol shooting coach, but I have seen the same with rifles and even trap shooting, where small girls have no anatomical advantage with the long guns.

I think women do better because they listen to instruction. Men pretend to listen, while they are actually watching "Rambo - the boxed set" in their head, with themself in the starring role...

My coolest moment teaching a woman to shoot? Not a girlfriend but a girl friend. Her second visit to the range, I think. Her best five shot group must have been less than two inches. Three tens and two nines, IIRC, on a standard ISSF bullseye target. I don't think an American quarter would have covered the group, but I think it would have touched all the holes. At 25 metres. When I tried to tell her how good that was, she refused to believe me - "You say that to all the girls, don't you?". She did eventually belive it, sort of, and took the target to hang in her cubicle at work.

 

[bigray327]

What's with all the advice? Sounds like she could school many of us here. If it ain't broke, put your ego aside and don't fix it.

 

[f4t9r]

You are in big trouble because I can some things she can improve on which means she is going to get better.
Looks like a good time , ENJOY

 

[Beren]

Try not to make her mad.

 

[NineseveN]

Try not to make her mad.

And that, gentlemen, is the quote of the thread.

 

[sturmruger]

Congrats on finding a good woman. Keep using those CT grips and you will want to have the on all of your guns. I sure love mine on my revolvers.

 

[sm]

Anyone else have a mind picture similar to mine?

I'm thinking a bunch of guys have just arrived to a range, their mentors and instructors are ladies of course. Another group of guys are ...snickering as they watch the first group.

First group just wins hands down, snickering stops. Second group approaches...

"Well for sure not Weaver?"
"Nope"
"And that ain't Isocolese"
"Nope"
"Never seen Chapman done first hand- that Chapman?"
"Nope".
"Well then what the heck you call it?"

Mean Ladies Lean



Beware the man that shoots one gun.

Be aware the female of the species is the most dangerous of the two.

Hell hath no fury like a lady that has something to protect. And not a prayer - no way...especially if she can shoot.

 

[Tequila_Sauer]

Sigh, another one joins the club.

Yes, this is becoming an epidemic. My g/f outshoots me on occasion, but not often.

However, I'm not that much better than she, and I've been shooting much longer!!!

The worst thing about a g/f that's into guns and shoots well? She'll take one of yours as her own. She and I will go out, and I just notice over time, "Hey, I haven't shot the 40 in a while, she's always seems to have it."

 

[NineseveN]

The worst thing about a g/f that's into guns and shoots well? She'll take one of yours as her own. She and I will go out, and I just notice over time, "Hey, I haven't shot the 40 in a while, she's always seems to have it."

Great excuse to get yerself a new one!!!

 

[Mad Bodhi]

I have it from a very good source that women tend to be better shots for the same reason they are better brain surgeons. Less muscle mass.Muscles twitch,it's what they do and a steady hand is easier with less muscle mass.In addition, it has always been my experience that while many guy's are perfectly content to "light'em up" and make noise girls tend to favor precision and are more excited to score a hit on a distant target than to rapid fire at a dirt clod 25 feet away.Alot of guy's just learning tend to not respect the power of a gun while girls most definetly do and they pay close attention when being instructed.

 

[joey93turbo]

Thanks alot for all the advice guys, this is turning into a great thread.

asiparks - I shoot at Johnson Creek Gun Club, it's cheap and convenient! plus the fact that they have no active staff is awesome.

oldfart - Do you still shoot there?

 

[Fred Fuller]

-from Louis Awerbuck:

"I’m not God’s gift to shooting, but what does it take to hit a target? A static range target. Sights, trigger, follow-through. So why do you go out there and shoot 10 rounds and miss after 40 years and Lord knows how many millions of rounds? Something goes askew in your head; you just do something stupid like yank on the trigger or fail to follow through with the sights.

There is nothing to taking a neophyte and teaching him how to shoot. The best-shooting pistol class you will ever see is a dozen 14-year-old females who have never touched a pistol. Are they gunfighters? I don’t know, but as far as mechanical shooting goes you can’t ask for anything more. A class of 14- year-old females will turn out amazing pistol shooters. They don’t have an ego, they haven’t got the prior mistakes (even in this day and age, it’s usually the son who gets taken out to shoot by daddy), so they don’t know how to miss." - http://www.paladin-press.com/authormo_0804.aspx

Whatever else you do, DO NOT take her to Seattle and introduce her to Gila Hayes... http://www.firearmsacademy.com/gila.htm . Your ego would never recover.

lpl/nc (dare ya...)

 

[Grampa]

Get your g/f to unwrap her off hand thumb from atop her shooting hand, she's begging for a "slide bite" which will really mess her shooting up.

Yeah. It looks as if her off-hand thumb crosses under the slide. That may hurt bad some day.

I taught an all-women pistol class last spring, and was very impressed with how well it went. There were several natural shooters. And, I did have shooters there that had never handled a handgun. I only taught isoceles, and emphasized bending the knees a little bit to overcome the backward lean. This class had a lot more discussion than others on handgun selection, and less inclination for cleaning the guns. Those that did want to clean them, wrote me up for not covering it well enough.