Urgent help needed to find gun attorney

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

I have a family member who was wrongfully tried and convicted on a crime he did not commit.

He was charged with attempted rape and possession of a firearm (felony) by a drug user, by his now ex-wife. He didn't do either crime, and after the wife saw him in the year and a half he spent in solitary, she cried and confessed she wished she had not divorced him or put him there. Rape charge was dropped, and he only went down on the possession charge. They found no drugs and stole all of his money in the house and called it dealer money. Only problem is, he is neither a dealer nor a user.

We need THE BEST gun attorney there is, to get back his grandfathers priceless non-serialized rifles, and his sons very first rifles. The police stole them on the condition of that he would either chose getting his money back, or the guns, thereby admitting what they were doing was illegal. Hell, the cop that convinced his wife to take them (she didn't want to originally and wasn’t even scared) offered to HAVE HIM KILLED for FREE before he was even tried! He wanted to take him out in the country that very night! She didn’t want his guns stolen or the cops to hurt him obviously, so she declined. They refused and lied to her and promised to only take them only overnight, but never gave them back and now never will unless he gets off the entire case, or finds a loophole. His ex-wife will not testify on his behalf, but in doing so she will be arrested for a false report.

He is a very nice old man and would never harm a soul. He had a family and kids. His life was destroyed and he was left penniless after they stole all of his money.

The supposed drug in his system was cocaine. He has never DONE cocaine. He is drug free and paid for himself to get tested by the 2nd leading drug tester in the world before they came a day later with a warrant to obtain his urine. He passed both leading drug tests, but they rigged it to show he had cocaine in his system. The Drug Enforcement Administration prosecutor admitted the only reason he was convicted, is because he didn't plea out, it pissed him off, and he had to work.

This man needs desperate help. He is still on federal probation. He still has no money and is now poor and desperate in life if you can call what he has a life, as it is controlled by the feds. I cannot let this man, my family member, go on like this and am doing all I can to help him after I found out about it. I only need an attorney who will at least take the case pro-bono and try to help him. I also want the BEST attorney possible, because I will be paying for it for him to get back what is owed to him, and make him money in the end, but he needs someone NOW to get it started.

In prison he was beat, abused, and kept in solitary confinement like an ANIMAL. He is broken, old, and probably doesn't want to live anymore if he didn't have children. Either way, I worry, and getting him off this will straighten his life back out, and in the same time, ensure that he doesn’t have to worry about money ever again and live out his days happy.

There is so much to say about this case, but I have just briefly gave an outline, please help if you believe in the 1st and 2nd amendments.


Sincerely,
Reverend ESS

 

[Barbara]

Would be helpful to know what state this was.

 

[Oldtimer]

I doubt if the NRA legal staff would touch that case. As much as I hate to say this, you might want to contact the ACLU. They would at least refer you to a "pro bono" attorney in your area.

There seems to be "something" missing in your story, for the DEA prosecutors only handle BIG drug cases.

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

Des Moines, Iowa.

There is nothing missing in the story. He was completely clean at the time of the arrest and had found God. It was pure police corruption and the prosecutor was a prick, and that's all there is to it.

 

[Highland Ranger]

Evan Nappen (evannappen.com) is the firearms attorney for NJ - he also has NRA ties.

Might pay to contact him and see if he can recommend someone out your way.

 

[Majic]

There is a law against having a firearm while in possession of illegal drugs, but simply being a drug user does not qualify. They have to find actual drugs for it to be a crime. The DEA will not get involved in a simple possession case. If his money was confiscated (not stolen) because of him being a dealer then he had to be charged with possession with the intent of distribution. Without any drugs then there is no charge and the money can't be touched. The guns can be confiscated if they lived together because of domestic violence.
None of those charges would hold up in any court because there is no evidence. If they don't have any drugs then you can't be convicted of possession. If you don't have any pre-packaged drugs or a large quantity of drugs then they can't convict you with possession with the intent. Without a possession with the intent charge then any money found can't be associated as proceeds from drug transaction.
So since the rape charge was dropped, exactly what crime did the judge convict and sentence this man to jail with?

 

[Molon Labe]

This man needs desperate help.

And what we need is objective information. In other words, we need facts.

For starters, how did this guy get convicted of a drug offense with no evidence?

 

[Barbara]

That part doesn't surprise me much. I've seen weirder stuff and also seen people plead guilty simply because they can't afford to fight the case. Public Defenders are often worth what you pay for them.

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

In Iowa with strict laws, being a user disqualifies you to have posession of a firearm. He was convicted on this because of his ex-wifes testimony which she now recants, and because of the prosecutor saying "we don't care if you use coke or not, we're going to convict you, and you can ???? off and die for all we care" Exact words. I am not joking. he either pleaded guilty and searved a year and a half, or he would get 6, minimum.

He had to plea, it was his only option that his very high priced lawyer gave at the last minute. They were going for a max sentance because they couldn't get him on ANYTHING. They looked up his criminal record, and found nothing. He was held in solitary beause they COULDN'T find anything for months. It just didn't exist, because like I say, he is a man of God.

There were no drugs found. At all. No traces. Nothing. 1000 dollars in cash. They stole it and never gave it back. This was just his personal petty cash that wasn't in the bank as he owned a business which was also destroyed by them. He is now shriveled and scared because of how poorly they treated him. They treat prisoners of war better than they did this guy, fellas. And he is not lying, I am his pastor and he will tell me everything and be honest with me, as we are essentially brothers.

This was ONLY a personal vendetta on a government appointed federal attorney who didn't like to work and admitted to such. If he plead out, he would have had a severly reduced sentance, but he refused until the end. He cried when he had to say yes your honor to pleading guilty. Think about that and if you think this is a man that is guilty of ANYTHING except having his country turn on him UNCONSTUTIONALLY, and turn him into a criminal over his ex wife's and a corrupt cops testimony.

 

[exoduster18]

E.s.s.

We need objective information. Pure and simple.

What in the hell do you mean "Personal Vendetta"? What did he do to pi$$ off the government? DEA only gets involved in the big cases. How did DEA get involved with a rape charge? What was up with cops who handled the case? Were they friends of the wife? And what judge carried the sentencing through? How did he do so with nothing but circumstantial evidence? How can so many LEOs be corrupt as you say? If this federal attorney didn't like to work, then why did he do so much to get the man convicted? Why exactly was he held in solitary confinement? He would of had to of been a great danger to himself, the guards, and the overall prison population. And if he was in solitary confinement then how was he beat up and tortured? This all seems a little suspect to me.

The information you give is one sided and sounds sort of like a hollywood paranoia movie script.

I RESPECT ALL MEN OF GOD. I AM A CHRISTIAN. BUT YOU SOUND A LITTLE TO UNLEVEL HEADED TO BE MAKE MUCH SENSE TO ME. I DO NOT QUESTION MY LORD OR ANYONE ELSE'S.

REMEMBER THIS: IN GOD I TRUST, ALL OTHERS MUST PAY CASH!!

Sorry about the rant and all the yellling.

 

[sturmruger]

Sorry, something is missing from this story! Is there anyway you could give us this guys first and last name. It sounds like he his going away for a while so I don't know why he would care. Never PLEAD GUILTY he is better of having his day in court.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Reverend, your story is terrible. There are so many weird aspects that it is hard for us to take you at your word. Since this is all a matter of public record and since this guy is such an upstanding person in your community, maybe you could provide us with some links to the story of how all this went down and we could have insight from a source other than one that shows bizarre reasoning.

Don't even suggest that you don't want to use his real name and further hurt him in some way. You want help. You want a lot of help. You want the best help there is, but won't pay for it and you want all this without giving us the insight to evaluate the situation for ourselves.

I am not impressed by your supposed station as a reverend. Most men of the cloth I know consider the use of the expression "hell" to be profanity and would not refer to folks as pricks as you have done with the prosecutor.

You have a lot of paranoid and disjunct conspiracy theory here that really doesn't make sure. If you want to be believed and people to help you, give up the public record information. If the guy is as great as you claim, you will find supporters, but your claims alone are pretty meaningless to the rest of us who don't know you, don't know your credentials, etc.

And while at it, what is the second best drug testing company in the world and what is the number one drug testing company in the world?

 

[Mastrogiacomo]

I wouldn't know one way or the another about this person's situation, which is absolutely horrible if indeed true, but I'd advise you contact Gun Owners of America and ask for a legal recommendation.

 

[Jeeper]

This all sounds a little odd.

 

[Double Maduro]

Holy Ghost,

First he is a family member then a parishoner.

First he was charged with rape and possesion of a fire arm, later she recanted the rape charge and he was convicted of possesion of cocaine.

No further mention of the firearm charge.

Was he a felon in possesion of firearms?

Did they find paraphernalia, little baggies, scales, residue? There had to be something there. That's right they didn't need any evidence because he confessed.

I personally think this is a made up story, and that you will be asking for contributions to a defense fund.

And all of this from a Glock armorer.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=101504

But then if you are a glock armorer, wouldn't you know the answers to the questions you asked here?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=97102

and knife sharpener

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=98887

Way too much wierdness, inconsistencies, and confusion to get involved with. My BS meter is nearing the peg.

Good luck to you and your relative, parishoner, friend.

However based on the way you start threads and then never acknowledge the people who have replied, I doubt we will ever hear any more about this.

DM

 

[Double Maduro]

The supposed drug in his system was cocaine. He has never DONE cocaine. He is drug free and paid for himself to get tested by the 2nd leading drug tester in the world before they came a day later with a warrant to obtain his urine.

Double Naught Spy said,

And while at it, what is the second best drug testing company in the world and what is the number one drug testing company in the world?

And why would he submit a urine sample the day before a search warrant was served?

Another question for you medical /forensic folks out there. As I understand it Cocaine metabolizes quite rapidly in the body and you don't find cocaine in the samples but have to search for the metabolites. Is that correct?

Thanks,
DM

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

He didn't do anything to tick off the government as far as I have known. It was a big case, yes; because he was getting popped for a felony. The DEA wasn't the only prosecuting attorneys in the case. It was a 17 page plea agreement in the end. The cops who handled the situation are our local city cops before it went federal. They are terrible, and FULLY corrupt. I face prosecution from them for even talking about this, as they have accused me of things I do not do, based on false information. If two agents can confirm people are saying untrue things about you, it’s called preponderance and it’s basically a conviction before your eyes. If they SAY you’re a drug dealer or a rapist, you ARE one. They have also beat me before, and I was tried and all charged dropped on drug charges also, for my legally prescribed medication that was labeled. I don't know how so many can be corrupt, but it's true, as I've worked for them in the past and seen it first hand. I quit after I saw how bad this department is. For years as a volunteer, I saw just how corrupt and terrible these cops can be, and on a side note I am working on getting the department shut down and investigated for their illegal practices. Many close personal friends have been wrongfully charged with crimes when they are honest, hard working citizens who do nothing at all wrong, go to church, etc. We’re talking your average joe getting a felony because a rookie cop wants to get an award. And there’s NOTHING you can do about it. Think about that for a minute.

I don't know why he was held in solitary, probably because of the things they accused him of. He was beat and tortured by having his handcuffs so tight that they drew blood, every time they were put on. He was denied everything including clothing before he was able to get money in his account. They took all of his, so he was penniless. This is federal prison we're talking about here, and you don't hear these kinds of stories often, much less from a generally respected member of the community. Mostly you WILL have the bad people in there, but this is one of the cases where he did nothing, and was still convicted falsely. There is nothing suspect about it, I'm sorry if anyone feels this way, but he did NOTHING AT ALL. I also have done NOTHING AT ALL and hurt no one, and yet I ended up in jail with permanent nerve damage and all charges against me dropped after a court battle. Only problem was, I wasn't fighting the feds, who have UNLIMITED resources, and he was in the end .

I cannot give his first and last name right now, but you probably wouldn't even be able to pull it up because it was so small time to them. If you have legal resources, I’m sure I can convince him to ok it. I will ask his permission to allow me to give it in private messages only as I respect his privacy and am working to help him for free, to set him free under his God given rights as a citizen of this country that was born and raised here. His only option was to plea guilty, or serve over 5 years plus. ONLY option. They would not offer any better, and his lawyer was disheveled when he found it out and very shaky in telling him such. This lawyer was over 10 thousand dollars alone just to retain him, and he lost, badly, on ONE charge only.

There are no links or anything, but he just got out 2 years ago, and is serving probation for a few more years. This prosecutor IS a prick. I am a man of cloth, but I am also someone who sees evil in men for what evil is. This guy is Satan, in human form. And profanity is neither a sin, nor if consider a sin, it is easily forgiven. In turn, I suppose I may be a sinner in the way I get worked up about the constitution being trampled on, I am sorry I cannot help it. I am at peace with my God and know that all people will sin eventually. I'm not paranoid myself at all, but in turn he has become EXTEMELY paranoid. He has told me much and many horrifying stories that make me never want to get a speeding ticket in my life again, let alone do any major crime. And the thing is, he was a legit business owner when this happened, providing for his family. The only reason it happened is because his wife went nuts one day, and decided to get him in trouble for her grievances which were not even worth a sheet of paper.

If they want to convict you, they will. I do not know who the number 1 and 2 ones are, but his lawyer retained them both before they even got the warrant. He took the same test from the number 1 again, and passed. But if they get the testing the first time and get a base line, even if it's not real or falsified like in this case as it was IMPOSSIBLE for cocaine to be there, they can use it in court. They refused to accept his test into evidence, that was done a day beforehand.

Yes, the rape charge was dropped because his wife saw what they were going to do to him. She made the entire story up to get him in trouble just out of spite, and at the divorce she was bawling because she realized what kind of a mistake she made, and said she would take it all back if she could.

The charge was a drug user in posession of a firearm (felony).


My questions as a business owner are completely irrelevant to the matters at hand. I know nothing of finding someone a legal defense and as a Glock armorer I only do freelance work VERY rarely. I haven't worked on a gun in over a year, as I have other businesses which actually pay me instead of fixing tupperware. Seeing as how over the past year I've started over 30 businesses, I didn't always have time to reply and for this I am sorry to any who read.

To close this post, yes it sounds far fetched. Yes it sounds make believe. No, it is NOT. It is all straight from the horses mouth, and the horses mouth will try to convict people whether they are guilty or not just so they don't have to work more. This attorney that was leading the prosecution does this for a job: if someone doesn't plea, he makes sure they are found guilty and thrown in for the maximum sentence. The prosecutor laughed at him and told him if he didn’t plea, he would do his worst to him. He is very corrupt and I will obtain and release his name to exposure him in the subsequent lawsuit. This is his personal vendetta against the world because apparently he hates working. I neither know why he does this or what is wrong with him as a person and a citizen to do these kinds of things, but I assure everyone here evidence was falsified, made up, and used to convict my friend. The worst he has done is petty crimes none of which he was ever convicted for, such as improper parking, personal substance use, etc. in his youth of the 60’s which I’m pretty sure most of us did way back in the day but don’t now. He is now over 60 and sober, obviously.


He is both a parishioner and a brother to me and as a family member I must do everything in my power to make sure he has this taken off his record, and he gets priceless heirlooms back.

If you chose to not believe me or say that I am a liar or making up things, so be it. I can't stand to lose anything here except my money which I will take 100% loss if I have to, which I will be paying multiple-thousand dollars in full to his legal defense to get him off. This is controlling his life and harming him and I cannot let this occur. I need the best, of the best, of the best to take care of my dear friend and man of God. If you don’t believe in a man of God, I cannot do anything to convince you, and for that, I am sorry. But everyone here will have to take my word as a solemn oath as a Reverend that all I say is true.




I do not know why this happened, but I know that it severely threatens and shows we have no 2nd amendment or 1st amendment, and that this 1 person needs our help to be free from a government that is abusing it’s power and control.

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

Double Naught Spy said,



And why would he submit a urine sample the day before a search warrant was served?

Another question for you medical /forensic folks out there. As I understand it Cocaine metabolizes quite rapidly in the body and you don't find cocaine in the samples but have to search for the metabolites. Is that correct?

Thanks,
DM

Because it was on his lawyers advice to do it to prove innocence, but they ended up rejecting his samples however. This was illegal, obviously. And yes, cocaine does rapidly metabolize out of your system, there is only a week's worth of testing time before it is gone approx. I do not know this as a user, but I am involved in the emergency medical field as well and am quite knowledgeable about both legal and illegal substances. There was no way this drug test came up positive, because quite simply, he was not a user of cocaine. At the time they tested him, he had not used cocaine in over 15 years since the early 80's before he calmed down. Maybe they were going off of false bad information from long ago that he was a coke dealer? I'm not really sure where from, but it is an idea. He wasn't a dealer, though, just a user. And I know from personal experience that the police here will take bad information, twist it, and call it true, and then distribute your picture to every cop saying such. There is nothing you can do about it, very simply, other than to sue them. I plan a personal lawsuit myself, actually, because of the harassment and emotional pain and suffering they have made me endure in addition to taking a quarter year of medication I could not afford as a non-profit member of the cloth at that time (I now own small businesses and am incorporating along with my church who now refuses donations and gives people anything they need) I may try to get a class action lawsuit against the city to have the entire department re-evaluated by the organizations that control law enforcement as this is just how corrupt it is.

Any lawyer within the state of iowa will work, as he is no longer living in Des Moines, but more towards Iowa City.

 

[Hemicuda]

My mother and sister are both lawyers... and i'll betcha that if i show them this post, they can point out 2 or 3 hundred discrepancies in the story... i myself smell a largish load of kaka in it... i do not know what the angle of this poster is, or if he intends to ask for "defense funds" or not, but something is REALLY fishy here...

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

I'm sorry if some parts i leave out, any spelling errors, etc. But as a small time business owner I neither sleep appropriately, eat right, or take care of myself for the next few months until everything I've worked for for a long time is established. I'm under constant buyer stress and give 200% in my service, so it takes a heavy toll on me. Still though, I agreed to pay for his defense pro-bono and to get his guns back. He is so despondant, he thinks he will never see them again and made me not promise to get them back for him. I know it can be done. I know someone, somewhere, can find a way, to reunite him with the only thing he has of his grandfather who was his father, and are worth multiple thousand dollars. These cops wanted to keep the guns for THEMSELVES and screwed up and test fired all of them (even though some werent even working! they COULDNT have test fired them) but they lied, once more, and said they did. They also "couldn't" find .44 mag ammo, even though they took the bullet belt which was fully loaded out of the safe. Figure it out. They are lying, ALL OVER the place. But once again, I'm sorry if some parts don't make sense, just please ask me to clarify and odn't think it's because I'm lying or trying to make anything up.


This is not a story. This is real life. This is worse than real life. His is IN his own personal hell and lacking in his faith. I must bring him back into the real world where he can live life once more and not have to worry. PLEASE help me with this.

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

Once again I am not asking for any money. I am paying for his full defense out of my OWN pocket because I trust him with my life. If I did not believe in his case and believe he could win, I would not do this. I have appropriated multiple thousand dollars automatically to pay for his defense in full if needed, as long as it is assured that he will win. I am also asking for pro-bono lawyers as i do not have a million dollars laying around quite yet, and still live day to day even with many small part time business adventures. And I think him explaining it to an attorney would make an attorney want to try it even more than I do just on behalf of him, and not involve my lack of sleep from working myself endless with 3 8 hours shifts in a row every 3 days, plus only getting limited sleep. Time is money and money is working. It is what I must do to provide for my family and friends when I am gone, soon.

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

I just talked to him again to get a briefing, and he says as part of his plea agreement ( I have not read it yet but will obtain a copy) he cannot appeal. His trial was based on entire false testimony though, so this is out the door no matter what if we get his ex-wife to testify. She obviously does not want to go prison though, so I'm not sure how a lawyer would work that out. He may be entirely wrong on this aspect too and just not fully understand it. Everything I'm typing is from hearing the story a couple times, and trying to piece ot all together for everyone easily enough to fully comprehend.

 

[raghorn]

Tmi

If you are seeking legal advice, the phone book is a pretty good place to start.

 

[Et Spiritus Sancti]

Yeah, I'm going to call up billie joe bobs lawyer service in IOWA for a federal case. Please offer real advice, not condescending useless advice. This is the most widely read forum that can offer a vast array of the best attorneys for legal retaining.

 

[Lupinus]

Here is some advice. Get over it get your story strait and pull out some air spray cause it stinks to high heavens.

Now for your advice? If he signed a plea bargin and pled guilty he is screwed so don't waste your time.

There are no links or anything, but he just got out 2 years ago, and is serving probation for a few more years.

Then agian.....