US lawmaker sees border 'war' with renegade Mexican troops

[tom barthel]

War on the border

I doubt our country will do anything unless Fort Hood is captured by Mexico or the cartels. It will take a MAJOR incident for the Govt. to take action. I just hope and pray it can be worked out peacefully. If it's to be a fight then so be it.

 

[Art Eatman]

Threads on this subject are fine with me, as long as the posts are pertinent. Smart remarks about Jorge Bush don't help. Yawping from behind a keyboard about going out and shooting doesn't help, either.

As far as civil rights, it seems to me that the 14th Amendment is at issue: "Equal protection under the law". The border residents don't seem to be getting that equal protection from "duly constituted authority".

Art

 

[Rusher]

Thanks Art for your understanding and for keeping this thread alive.

 

[wingman]

Threads on this subject are fine with me, as long as the posts are pertinent. Smart remarks about Jorge Bush don't help. Yawping from behind a keyboard about going out and shooting doesn't help, either.

Thanks Art, I believe this is an important subject and concerns all Americans.

Our governor today announced he was sending various law enforcement
people to the border to help secure the area. I suspect it has something
to do with coming elections however no matter the reason it is needed.

 

[Art Eatman]

I rather object to "renegade Mexican troops". They're likely not renegade at all. There is no such thing as a lack of knowledge on the part of officers. When guns are involved, knowledge means at least tacit approval, probably gained via mordida from the local narcotrafficante.

In some areas, the marijuana is grown under the protection and supervision of members of the military.

How do I come to believe this? 23 years on the border. Chit-chat with Border Patrol guys and the occasional knowlegeable LEO. Chit-chat "gossip" with folks who ramble back and forth across the border, sometimes living for a while in Mexico.

There are few secrets. It's just that Washington VIPs and the Sean Hannity types don't hang out, drink beer and talk to the locals who've been here for years.

Example: If you read Joaquin Jackson's book, "One Ranger", he speaks of his disbelief that Presidio County Rick Thompson was dirty. He'd known Rick for some three or four years at the time of the arrest for a metric ton of cocaine. The folks down here along the river had known Rick was dirty for over ten years before Joaquin ever met him...

Art

 

[Standing Wolf]

I rather object to "renegade Mexican troops". They're likely not renegade at all.

I'm reasonably sure the so-called "incursions" are made under orders from on high. Mexico is stepping up the political pressure on the United States.

Curiously, Mexico jealously guards its own southern border.

 

[longeyes]

It will take a MAJOR incident for the Govt. to take action.

You're right. Twenty million people entering our country illegally is barely a blip on the radar. Let's wait until it gets serious. Uh-huh.

 

[Lupinus]

You're right. Twenty million people entering our country illegally is barely a blip on the radar. Let's wait until it gets serious. Uh-huh.

I belive he was refering to mexican tanks parked in the driveway of the texas govenors mansion with a fat mexican general suning himself by the pool.

 

[longeyes]

I belive he was refering to mexican tanks parked in the driveway of the texas govenors mansion with a fat mexican general suning himself by the pool.

Arresting image. I can smell the cigar smoke wafting past the cabana. Somebody get the General a Remy Martin.

 

[CAnnoneer]

WashDC will do nothing until LEOs die at the border and a major newspaper blasts it about it. As usual, in politics how things look is far more important than how things are.

 

[longeyes]

WashDC will do nothing until LEOs die at the border and a major newspaper blasts it about it. As usual, in politics how things look is far more important than how things are.

I'm cynical enough to think even THAT won't change the situation. How many escaped Mexican felons have sought refuge back home in Mexico, some for truly atrocious crimes? How much pressure has "D.C." put on Mexico? How much coverage has this situation really gotten in the media?

The fix is in. Big money's involved here. Big political pressure. We're going to need a major upheaval of some kind to move the mountain.

 

[El Tejon]

Come on, guys. You really can't be serious? The Mexican Army invading the USA?

The whipping the Mexicans took the last time? We still have a Mexican leg up here in the Midwest. The sorry state of the Mexican Army, and just what is in it for Mexico to start a war in which they would cease to exist?

Most of us in the gun culture know the US-Meixco border is violent as many of our gun culture icons served in the BP and had famous fights down there even if we never have been in sight of the border. The border is violent--O.K., we know, just like we know that D.C. or Gary, Indiana is. In fact it is far more violent in Chicago or New York City; do you want troops there as well?

The Border Brewhaha nonsense is simply a ploy for some states to stick their head in the federal money trough yet again. To whine and cry over a "problem" that has always existed in order to get more dinero that the states can use to buy votes and do nothing about the "border problem." All politics is money.

 

[longeyes]

There's a cheap and efficient way to stop the lawlessness on the border: de-criminalize/legalize the drug trade and wring the profit out of it.

As for illegal immigration, whole different story. I suggest we start by removing the carrot of social welfare--all forms, including health care and education--and massively toughening up the physical border. My personal view is that we need a moratorium on all immigration until we come up with a plan that advances the best interests of America and American citizens, both short-term and long-term.

 

[El Tejon]

long, O.K., sounds reasonable to me. Heck, I certainly have no argument with Congress' plenary power to do institute any sort of reforms, including a freeze on immigration, and we can argue and put to vote what should be done.

However, some of the anti-emmygrant rhetoric is just plain nutty (to me at least). War with Meheco? Come on. Don't think it helps you pro-reformers anywho.