Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by rfwobbly, Sep 19, 2019.
This is all JHP and FMJ. No bare lead.
Anybody ever try that ?
#1 .223 on stripper clips, 200 per pack. Failed really fast. The corners of the stripper clips tear up the foodsaver bag fast.
#2 .223 loose, 150 per pack. Failed fairly fast - maybe a month or two. The FMJ bullet too pointy/sharp and poked thru foodsaver bag.
#3 9mm loose, 200 per pack. Failed in about 6 months (not sure but wasn't immediate, wasn't longer than a year). Unsure why this failed with FMJ RN bullets. Pretty smooth and sealed up making a nice brick.
SO anyway, basic foodsaver bags are just a waste of time & $.......A heavier material & commercial vacuum sealer might be fun to try
I figure that's air tight enough.
I just store my ammo in sealed .50 cal cans, but I don't think encasing bulk primers in a steel can is a good idea.
I doubt that a vacuum seal would affect the chemical composition or burn rate of the powder, but I think it might be detrimental to the weatherproofing of individually sealed rounds like M855.
Also, battlepacks exist. Plenty of mil issue ammo comes in sealed plastic bricks, with some vacuum pulled. They are delightful. Very reliable stuff.
If you have the room, as said by others, USGI ammo cans are reliable. Clean the seal, then re-lube with silicone grease to make sure it works right. Dry seals pinch, bind, gap, crack, etc.
What country does that?
Most of my ammo is stored in GI cans or if a factory case I just wrap the entire case in shrink wrap. My ammo stays fine for 20+ years like that.
I did find a box of 357 LSWC loaded in 1978. It was moved to 6 states and for nearly 20 years sitting at ambient temperature in unheated garage. No signs of external damage and performance was like 1978.
Vacuum-sealing things is helpful for reducing oxidization from the atmosphere. I don't think atmospheric oxygen is where trouble with ammo usually starts. You'd be solving a non-problem, and quite possibly creating new problems along the way.
This is a case where a search would've probably turned up a multitude of hits. This is another one of those topics that has been touched on quite regularly on these types of forums. As replies have shown, can be done, doesn't have to be done, but if done, should be done mindfully.
I am doing a ladder in 30-06 for 7 different guns to test a new bullet and have put the first and 2nd run in vacuum bags until I get 7 50rnd ammo boxes to keep them separated. I have our old sealer in the garage and have hundreds of bags from an estate sale that I use for ammo and anything that will fit that I want to keep dry like first aid, seasoning for camp, extra batteries etc.
When I was doing 5 and 6 thousand mile 2 or 3 week trips on motorcycles I used vacuum storage bags and a small 12v vacuum/airpump to compress and keep dry my clothes dry so I think the same principle could be used with ammo if going on a trip.
A friend of mine thought that would be a great idea for to protect his ammo he was transporting to Africa for a hunt he won. It never made it to Africa. Can you imagine what ammo for his big gun costs from the Africa outfitter?
His fancy vacupacked ammo never made it because the baggage inspector found it and confiscated it in New York.......seems there's a rule that ammo has to be in factory cartons to fly the friendly skies.
I did do a search before asking, and most of the existing responses were about lead bullets which did not apply.
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