However, it was Brazill, his grandfather, and perhaps the school that were liable, not Valor,"
Sounds a bit cold but it worked when the kid pulled the trigger. I did not read any other information that said the Raven ever went off by itself.Valor's attorneys argued that the company cannot be considered negligent if someone uses one of its guns for a crime. But Grunow's attorneys said federal officials had told Valor for years that its .25-caliber Raven handgun was frequently used in crimes and that the company had a legal responsibility to make the weapons safer.
But Grunow's attorneys said federal officials had told Valor for years that its .25-caliber Raven handgun was frequently used in crimes and that the company had a legal responsibility to make the weapons safer.
Again, I think sometime people look for a conspiracy where there is none. Most likely cause? Someone trying to make a quick buck.
I agree Gray, that if the gun is blowing up in people's hands, the company has the responsibility to make the gun safer
Did the VPC or Brady Bunch fund any part of the lawsuit? Do we know?I'm reasonably sure the only motive here was to follow the money, not to make a socio-political statement by trying to bankrupt the firearms industry.
I'm reasonably sure the only motive here was to follow the money, not to make a socio-political statement by trying to bankrupt the firearms industry.
I'm reasonably sure the only motive here was to follow the money, not to make a socio-political statement by trying to bankrupt the firearms industry.
federal officials had told Valor for years that its .25-caliber Raven handgun was frequently used in crimes and that the company had a legal responsibility to make the weapons safer.
still maintain that a lot of time, people are just after money, and are not trying to make a political statement.
I still maintain that a lot of time, people are just after money, and are not trying to make a political statement.
Jurors composed of Choice Ds.Circuit Judge Jorge Labarga threw out the November 2002 verdict as inconsistent after jurors found the gun was not a defective product but still found Valor negligent.
Did the VPC or Brady Bunch fund any part of the lawsuit? Do we know?
UNLOADED GUNS DO NOT KILL
by: gkisela2002 (269/M/THIRD ROCK FROM THE SUN) 06/01/05 05:08 pm
Msg: 1309 of 1320
SHE SHOULD HAVE SUITED THE BULLIT COMP.
Re: UNLOADED GUNS DO NOT KILL
by: jccsmith 06/01/05 05:27 pm
Msg: 1314 of 1320
4 recommendations
First, it's bullet.
Second, loaded guns don't kill either. People kill. A gun does not run around killing people. It requires a human to pull the trigger. Should we sue Ford everytime a drunk kills someone while driving a Mustang? No. In the same way we should not sue gun companies, or ammunition manufacturers when a criminal kills someone with a firearm.
I don' think there was any conspiracy at work. Standard trial attorney strategy is to sue whoever has resources. If you're stone broke, you're effectively "judgment proof" because it isn't worth any attorney's time to take you to court. The widow (naturally) wanted to get something out of her husband's death. This kid and his grandfather probably don't have much money, so they sued the gun maker.
I'm reasonably sure the only motive here was to follow the money, not to make a socio-political statement by trying to bankrupt the firearms industry.
is this the gleam of hope??? ..."However, it was Brazill, his grandfather, and perhaps the school that were liable, not Valor" does this imply that the school's denial of teachers self defense implements is a liability? oh if we could take this ruling and run with it.... "perhaps the school is liable"