very upset over New Britain, CT's way of dealing with handgun permit...

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Its been 13 weeks since I applied for the carry permit here in CT. I got a little worried so I called today to check on the status of it. They told me they are having a bit of a problem getting in touch with my references. They said they tried to contact them on 8/29/07. but only 1 of the call went thru but it got send right to voice mail. I asked my friend if he got any voice mail he said no. and same with the other two. I told the detective if they can call him right now he said no, and that he have to be able to call them on the number I gave them. Im to the point where I think they are making it up just to delay it further. Some towns here don't even require references to obtain a pistol permit:rolleyes:.

As far as I know the state only have 8 weeks to give or say they can't issue me the permit. I have a clear record and have been very law abiding.

so it took them 12 weeks just to "try" to contact my references and they didn't even call to tell me they are unable to get in touch with them.


Sorry Im a bit upset because i havn't fired any of my handguns in 6 mouths (I moved from another state to CT over 6 months ago). and according to CT law i can't take out any of my handguns outside of my home unless i have a carry permit...:rolleyes:
 
Keep posting.

I think I might call all my elected Reps, starting with US Congress, down to the Mayor. Wonder if the Mayor would let you list him as a reference? Or perhaps the police chief?

Hope you will update this as it plays out. I'm still waiting for the first politician or LEO that is not hostile to Bill of Rights. Most of them seem to play it like Katrina. They are ruining their "brand", IMPO.
 
Sorry Im a bit upset because i havn't fired any of my handguns in 6 mouths (I moved from another state to CT over 6 months ago). and according to CT law i can't take out any of my handguns outside of my home unless i have a carry permit...
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I think you moved to the wrong state. :banghead: :banghead:
 
Everytime that I have contacted my state officials (Governor, Reps, A.G., etc) I have received very fast, and very professional support.

On a personal note, really sorry to hear of this and I certainly agree it would be frustrating. This too shall pass.
 
...according to CT law i can't take out any of my handguns outside of my home unless i have a carry permit...
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Forgive me, I'm not up on CT law, but how does that work? You can't go to a range with them properly stowed in the trunk of your vehicle? If you can't have firearms outside your house without a permit, how did you get them there in the first place?

Sorry to hear about your troubles, that's really bad law...
 
references are not even a requirement under state law. Some how the town thinks they can go above the state law and add their own salt and pepper into the mix. If i remember right I applied for the permit way before the cheshire madness.


as far as how i got them to my house is concern: i called the DPS about this before i moved. They said it was OK for me to transport it to my house here in CT as long as I move them right from my old home from another state to the new one here in CT. But I have to store it at home (handguns) until i get my carry permit. Meaning no bringing to the range until they get their act together and issue me the permit...
 
Well you can do what Doc. said:

Everytime that I have contacted my state officials (Governor, Reps, A.G., etc) I have received very fast, and very professional support.
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And I hope he was right when he said...

On a personal note, really sorry to hear of this and I certainly agree it would be frustrating. This too shall pass.
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But you know, where I am (Arizona) what is being done to you is literally against the law, and besides - any city government that tried to do it would be out of office at the next election... if not before.

I too had a chance to move to CT., and turned the offer down without a second thought. There isn't enough money in the world to justify living under such conditions. :cuss:
 
thanks for understanding guys.

I looked around the Department of public safety site for CT and they too says that the issuiing PD only has 8 weeks to review the application and approve or deny.

http://www.ct.gov/dps/cwp/view.asp?a=2158&Q=294502&dpsNav=|

They can't deny it if everything else other than my References checked out. The funny thing is that they actually want another set of references when I was on the phone with them. Great am i gonna let all my friends know that I'm going to carry concealed? I think im about to have enough with them. Maybe I should get a lawyer...:scrutiny:
 
I feel your pain. I got my permit in Hartford about a year ago, and it took about 6 months start-to-finish. The big delay was scheduling an appointment with detective to submit my paperwork and get fingerprinted. That alone took nearly 4 months.

If your situation doesn't get fixed soon, your best bet is to file a concise, articulate complaint with the New Britain Chief of Police. I suspect if you do so, crap will roll downhill fast and you'll have your permit in short order.

Your other option is to file an appeal with the Firearms Permits and Appeals Board (I think that's what they're called?). You have standing after the 8 week period lapses. Supposedly they're reasonable people, and will work with you to get things straightened out.

good luck!
 
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My impression is that they're probably snowed under, what with the way they've been pulling girl skeletons out of every patch of woods in town the past few weeks. New Britain is not at all a big police department, and now that it looks like they've got themselves a local serial killer, everything else is probably out the window. (It's news to me that they have a detective.)
I'll double check whether you can go to the board of permit examiners without having gone through the town permit stage, but offhand I want to say no. If you want to go that route, serving notice of intent to sue would probably get your people called and town permit issued sometime in the next two weeks, but you're talking blowing $200 on Attorney's fees. Once you clear the town hurdle, everything is much more professional, don't despair. Try putting in a propane tank in New Britain; it's roughly five times worse.
 
It's a shame that only the non-resident CT permit bypasses the municipal level and goes straight to the State Police. I got mine in just under eight weeks.
 
As far as I know the state only have 8 weeks to give or say they can't issue me the permit. I have a clear record and have been very law abiding.
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The State Supreme Court has ruled that 8 weeks is only a recommendation.
 
My fieancee and me filed for our temp state permits in East Hampton and recieved them 4 weeks later. only problem was they put the wrong street on mine but the lady at the police station just tore up the one with bad info and printed me up a new one.

Getting the state permit took only a few minutes at the D.P.S in Middletown.
My town does not require refrences just 3 "letters of reccomendation".
 
Give it some more time, maybe up to 6 months if needed. Not only because you're coming from out of state, but because some departments just take a long time. Maybe they are waiting to see if you will get arrested for something in the meantime. If they don't contact you around then with a letter of decision, then it starts to look more like a "constructive denial".
The best firearms lawyer in the state is located in New Britain on the corner of West Main St. & South High St.. His name is Attorney Ralph Sherman.
If you aren't patient and don't want to wait out the entire process, then you'll need to file an appeal with the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners in Hartford. And while you don't need to have a lawyer, if do chose to hire one it will cost some money, maybe more than the price of a new gun.
So, try to wait out the process. New Britain isn't the only city that takes a long time. And if you start to complain too much, then they may look at your complaint as an indication that you lack patience. So try not to complain too much if you can help it, or it may cost end up costing you more money.
It's sad but true.
 
not to rub it in, but this year my wife got hers (start to finish) in ...

TWO WEEKS. ihityounot.gif

I think the digital fingerprint thing greatly speeded up the process.

In 1995, it took me 90 days to get my "town" pistol permit (this was before the "temporary" state permit).
 
Mine took 6 weeks City of New London was where I applied...

Some info for you!
Q10. How long after I make an application must l be notified of the issuing authority’s decision?

A. The law mandates that the issuing authority shall inform the applicant that his/her request for a permit has been approved or denied by phone or a letter no later than eight weeks after the application has been submitted.

Q11. What should I do if I do not receive a decision within eight weeks after submitting my application?

A. At the end of eight weeks, contact the issuing authority and inquire about the status of your application. If there appears to be a minor administrative delay, wait an additional two or three weeks for it to be resolved. You may contact the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners to file an appeal if you are not contacted.

Q12. What is the procedure for filing an appeal with the Board?

A. You must write a letter to the Board within 90 days of the date your permit was revoked or denied. The Board will need the date you received notice of the revocation or denial. Be sure to include your name, address, telephone number, date of birth, and your signature.




http://www.ct.gov/bfpe/cwp/view.asp?a=1252&q=254182
 
I emailed the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners yesterday and they got back to me today:

"You are correct Connecticut State Statue Sec. 29-28a(b)states that the
local
authority has 8 weeks to process your permit. You can now appeal a
"denial"
based on the wait time being longer than 8 weeks. I am including an
attachment on how to appeal. Unfortunately you may be waiting up to 18
months for a hearing. Despite the wait, the advantage of appealing now
is,
if you believe eventually you will be denied a permit, then you are
ahead of
the game by appealing now. If in 6 months New Britian PD sends a letter
stating you will be issued a permit, then you will need to call our
office
to cancel the appeal."


I don't know exactly what I should do at this point. I can...

1. wait 2 more weeks hoping that they will get their act together and issue me the permit without some BS excuse. But like i told you guys before. (It looks like NBPD is playing games with me, they should of call my references way before. I don't see how they can get so busy and "trys" to contact my references TEN weeks after I submitted my paper work.)
2. file an appeal now, since it will take a while before they will contact me for a hearing.
3. Get a lawyer...which will cost me at least a few hundreds of bucks.

I'm really in a pretty crappy situation. When I was living in Alabama I had no problem getting my CCW and they only took a week a half...
 
My dad had to apply 3 times . That was 25 years ago . I will not even cross the mighty Mississippi to visit that state .

Move west young man !!!


ETA: Copy , print and shag your butt down to the PD and ask *** is up .............Question them . Demand answers . Its you're right .
 
Well the 8 weeks thing is really not followed in the bigger towns. Again, you are not waiting on the state you are waiting on New Britain to issue the town permit. They (the state and the town) will each point the finger at the other for the delay. Bottom line is you will have to wait or appeal. My colleague has been waiting since Memorial day so you are not alone. It took me and my wife less than 6 weeks. We live in rural Lebanon so the paper work was processed pretty fast. You may be swimming up stream against the flood of permit applications since the Cheshire murders. The appeal will probably not help you much unless you actually denied. "Grab a chair and watch the leaves fall" is what my colleague has said. Just be glad you don't live in MA or NY.
 
Fill out the paper work for the appeal, send it in, and cc to the local CoPD, putting notice to them that you are filing an appeal, and adding in a cover letter that you have begun the appeal process and feel that you have no other choice seeing his dept is remiss in failing to operate in a timely manner, Further send a copy to each and every city council member.
 
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