Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Jimfern, Jul 18, 2020.
The brown wood-stocked shotgun looks great with the bayonet lug/heat shield attached .
Thanks for the reply. I did not find the longer barrel trench guns you mention but perhaps I missed something as there were a number of web sites on the subject. The one site I found interesting is that the Winchester 1200 Trench gun seems very rare. It listed one that went for over $7,000 if I read correctly. Its estimate was listed between $1,500 and $1,900 but it far exceeded that estimate. The barrel length was listed at 20.5 inches FYI.
Pre-1968, the law didn't require serial numbers on guns though many had them anyway.
I prefer shorter, quicker-handling shotguns. Here are two that I set up for myself. 18.25" barrel on the Auto 5 and 19.5" on the Model 37.
I refinished the wood. The metal was in great condition, but I have a bad habit of refinishing my gun stocks, so these two fell victim as have most of my other long guns.
MOST fighting shotguns had barrels in the 18"-20" range. But a lot of sporting guns were pressed into service and it wasn't terribly unusual to find one with barrels as long as 30".
You need to check out the guns of Bonnie and Clyde.
And this one maybe $250.
I ain’t a gonna do it, but those prices make me want to sell a couple of firearms I rarely if ever use.
As mentioned in Post # 13, the heat shield has to go back to the receiver.
If you look at the American Rifleman article, you'll see an actual Vietnam shotgun with the same heat shield.
Most handguns (being subject to more restrictive state laws intended to reduce crime) have been serial numbered since the 1800s.
In my observation, most centerfire rifles made before 1968 have been serial numbered.
@Jimfern digging those shotguns! What model is the top one? I think that looks superb!
Below is a pic of my fake Stevens 520a WWII era "trench" gun, a Westernfield receiver with 520 barrel cut down to correct Stevens 520a length and heat shield properly installed. The heat shield does not go all the way back to the receiver, and I have never seen a genuine 520 where the heat shield does, nor on a genuine Win 1897 trench gun.
Rock Island Auction original Stevens 520
C&Rsenal video of 1897
An original Winchester 97 Trench gun posted by a collector at Wikipedia (commons PD).
The heat shield goes back even with the back of the pump handle.
The commercial heat shield I mounted on my S&W 916 went all the way back to the receiver.
But. We are talking "vietnam replica shotguns" here people. Military trench and riot guns.
I would suggest as a reference Bruce N. Canfield, " A Collector's Guide to United States Combat Shotguns", Andrew Mowbray Publishers, 1992.
Canfield does a lot of the historical research and and articles for the NRA American Rifleman magazine.
Added: the Stevens 520 replica posted above matches the 520 trench gun posted by Canfield on page 105. Good job, DocRock.
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