Third_Rail
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I always thought that overall, crimes involving firearms were relatively small compared to knives, etc.?
Manedwolf said:I would think that the fact that crime in Illinois went UP would be a sort of "hoist with
their own petard", by simple truths?
1. Nobody can legally carry a concealed weapon in Illinois.
2. Criminals carry weapons concealed and use them, as evidenced by street crime.
3. Therefore, concealed weapons prohibition is not effective.
And also:
1. Guns must be registered in Illinois
2. Criminals are shooting people with unregistered or stolen guns.
3. Therefore, the registry is not useful.
And even:
1. It is very difficult for a law-abiding citizen to own a gun in Chicago.
2. The number of guns in Chicago is hundreds or thousands of times the number of legal
permits.
3. Therefore, the legal permit laws ARE NOT WORKING.
I wonder how much increase of crime is caused by the increased illegal alien population.
From the Los Angeles news media there seems to be a lot of Hispanics on the wanted list.
I actually went to the NRA website and clicked on the "join" link and stared at the membership fees page.
Actually JesseJames, you can get pretty cool ar-15 rifles still. I bought a Bussmaster xm-15 M4gery a few months ago. No collapsable stock, but it is styled like one. No flash supressor, but the barrel is ported like one. Would I have liked those features? Absolutely. It is still an awesome weapon that has the Evil black style at least.But now I learn that CT has state legislation AWB.
Criminal justice experts said the statistics reflect the nation's complacency in fighting crime, a product of dramatic declines in the 1990s and the abandonment of effective programs that emphasized prevention, putting more police officers on the street and controlling the spread of guns.
"We see that budgets for policing are being slashed and the federal government has gotten out of that business," said James Alan Fox, a criminal justice professor at Northeastern University in Boston. "Funding for prevention at the federal level and many localities are down and the (National Rifle Association) has renewed strength."
Fox cautioned against reading too much into year-to-year changes in individual cities, saying some differences result from random variation and marked swings the previous year. Also, some large statistical increases result from some small numerical changes.
Desertdog said:So what went wrong after the 1960s?
Also in chicago it's illegal to own a gun period(legally that is)unless your a LEO or an alderman. Alderman can CC.