VP70Z Should I get it?
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jimmyjoebob
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dude there are like 3 for sale on the HKPRO board for $500 and under.
faustulus
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Joe Bob is right I have seen them under 500
jimmyjoebob
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well they are DAO, and if you want the first polymer pistol ever made, then you are looking at it.
To be honest, if I was going to buy one, I would probably buy a select fire one. As much as I love HK, this is one that I just don't care for. But I will say this, I have never playing with this model I am sure that if I did and I enjoyed it then I will admit it, but I just don't see it happening.
they were designed at weapons for tankers, the real ones have a stock that doubled as a holster, it also had a selector on it to switch from single to 3 rd burst IIRC
To be honest, if I was going to buy one, I would probably buy a select fire one. As much as I love HK, this is one that I just don't care for. But I will say this, I have never playing with this model I am sure that if I did and I enjoyed it then I will admit it, but I just don't see it happening.
they were designed at weapons for tankers, the real ones have a stock that doubled as a holster, it also had a selector on it to switch from single to 3 rd burst IIRC
Roger Williams
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Ok, I'm putting on my flamesuit! I know nothing at all about the gun but...
That thing looks almost as good as a Hi-point!
That thing looks almost as good as a Hi-point!
caz223
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Absolutely not.
The triggers of the ones that I handled/shot were horrible!
Also, I saw one at my local shop in excellent shape with 3 18 rounders for under $500.
It was there for months.
Don't know if it's there anymore.
The triggers of the ones that I handled/shot were horrible!
Also, I saw one at my local shop in excellent shape with 3 18 rounders for under $500.
It was there for months.
Don't know if it's there anymore.
Guys,
Actually, I have always thought it was quite good looking. Remember the context, this was a radically new design when introduced(1970): a three round burst plastic framed pistol. The Glock is virtually a Vp70 2.0. Striker fired, DAO trigger, plastic frame, ultra hi cap (18 rounds!). This gun was the genesis of all that is "cutting edge" today.
GHB
Actually, I have always thought it was quite good looking. Remember the context, this was a radically new design when introduced(1970): a three round burst plastic framed pistol. The Glock is virtually a Vp70 2.0. Striker fired, DAO trigger, plastic frame, ultra hi cap (18 rounds!). This gun was the genesis of all that is "cutting edge" today.
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BeLikeTrey
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Two models
Vp70-z is civie model
Vp70-M is the one that you can attach the select fire stock to. I definantly wouldn't pay that for a "z" model !!!!
Also IIRC it has a bottom mag release.
Now the sights are really cool to me and I don't mind a bottom release...
Get the "M" if you are gonna pay that much!
Vp70-z is civie model
Vp70-M is the one that you can attach the select fire stock to. I definantly wouldn't pay that for a "z" model !!!!
Also IIRC it has a bottom mag release.
Now the sights are really cool to me and I don't mind a bottom release...
Get the "M" if you are gonna pay that much!
Tamara
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Hm. It must've been broken.
When I was a kid, this was my dream pistol. Then I actually shot one.
Sigh... the shattering of childhood dreams is always such a poignant thing. Yep. when I was a kiddie, I had a pal that bought one. The trigger was somewhere between 18-20lbs. Long and dao kinda thingy. The gun was huge.......it really was meant to go off more than one with one pull. In semi, it's a cool looking paperweight.
cratz2
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Absolutely ditto to what Tamara said! I used to think that all I needed in this world, handgun-wise, was a 1911A1, a Smith Model 28, and a VP-70.
But when it comes to trigger pulls on those things... when you said it 'is good', did you mean it is good or it's good for a VP70? From your post, I get the feeling that you haven't handled any others and if you think the pull on the VP70 is good, man oh man... there are some 1911s and CZs out there that are gonna knock your socks off! Actually, they'd probably scare you!
I have no interest in one either but the last two I've seen around these parts were both around $800 and those were at shops with traditionally outstanding prices.
But when it comes to trigger pulls on those things... when you said it 'is good', did you mean it is good or it's good for a VP70? From your post, I get the feeling that you haven't handled any others and if you think the pull on the VP70 is good, man oh man... there are some 1911s and CZs out there that are gonna knock your socks off! Actually, they'd probably scare you!
I have no interest in one either but the last two I've seen around these parts were both around $800 and those were at shops with traditionally outstanding prices.
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Mike Irwin
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Whoever wants $800 for it is SMOKING CRACK!
That's $300 to $500 ABOVE the going price.
A year ago I passed one up that was in about 95% bluing condition with 3 factory 18 round mags and a pricetag of $450.
You can't find leather, you can't find any sensation in your trigger finger after firing more than 2 or 3 mags, and you definitely can't find a reason to spend this much for one of these guns.
That's $300 to $500 ABOVE the going price.
A year ago I passed one up that was in about 95% bluing condition with 3 factory 18 round mags and a pricetag of $450.
You can't find leather, you can't find any sensation in your trigger finger after firing more than 2 or 3 mags, and you definitely can't find a reason to spend this much for one of these guns.
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That price is insane. And I've played with the VP70z, and the trigger pull really IS that horrible. It is a finger punishment system, not a gun.
Check out this video of the burst version--sounds like a Mg42!
http://www.hkpro.com/video/VP70Z-VP70M.mov
http://www.hkpro.com/video/VP70Z-VP70M.mov
Yeah one of those cool collectors pieces was the draw.
The trigger was about 10 lbs and I heard the firing pin drop.
Either the thing had been worked on or I don't know my own strength.
If I can get one for under $500 I may do so but I will be sure to dry fire it to make sure it isn't unbearable.
The weird thing about the shop that had this gun. They have some normal prices, some good prices and some refriggingdiculous prices.
I guess the VP70Z is the latter.
The trigger was about 10 lbs and I heard the firing pin drop.
Either the thing had been worked on or I don't know my own strength.
If I can get one for under $500 I may do so but I will be sure to dry fire it to make sure it isn't unbearable.
The weird thing about the shop that had this gun. They have some normal prices, some good prices and some refriggingdiculous prices.
I guess the VP70Z is the latter.
Tamara
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Isn't the AA2000 a rotating-barrel recoil-operated gun while the VP70 is straight blowback?
(Bear in mind, BTW, that the lightweight AA2000 is nowhere near as good a bass boat anchor as the more stoutly-built VP70.
)George Hill
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800 is way too much. I've seen them used for under 400 at Richmond gun shows. In fact, I remember seeing one for 250, but the finish was horrible. I bought it and a week later and 500 rounds lighter - wish I kept the money instead. I sold it for 300 to help pay for the wasted ammo.
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