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Very cool, thanks for all the replies and links! Now I just have to find one. I like what I've read about the D-Technik models, sounds like the plastic/polymer parts won't be a problem.
 
Maverick: Thanks for the link, that is the best price for a new one I've seen. I sent them an e-mail to see if they have any fixed stocked models.
 
Well I just joined the club by ordering a century from classic arms. Maybe joining as the branch of the family on the wrong side of the tracks but still close kin :)
 
Maverick thank you for the nice greeting unlike some I got at another board I posted at. It got my dander up so I had to write a defensive reply. I think it is both accurate and amusing but I am one of those that laughs at his own jokes sometimes.

Geez give a guy who does not *** golden goose eggs a break. I know it has the hated name CENTURY but they didn't go down to Lowes and buy a piece of PVC pipe for a barrel or contract with some dirt floor machine shop in the Swat Valley of Pakistan for a receiver. I did a little research and not many folks that have bought the recent ones are bad mouthing them. Everyone that gave feedback at J & G gave it a five star. Fact is several that own it and the pricier czech imports claim the Century outshoots. SHOCK!!! BLASPHEMY !!!

This is who makes the receiver. They also make FAL receivers. Not exactly joe's garage guys.

http://www.northcountryeng.com/

Green Mountain makes the barrels. I don't hear too much about them churning out a bad product.

http://www.gmrifleba...utdoorResources

Everything else is Czech military parts kits.

I don't know if Century has their infamous monkeys slamming them together but it wouldn't be unheard of them contracting that task out to people with a mild pot instead of a harsh hallucinogenic meth habit.

Chrome line barrels aren't the be all end all of of everything. Plenty, maybe most, rifles do not have them. All the legendary arms like Garand and M14 and 1911s and .. do. Whoops. No they do not. Well all the high end target rifles do. Whoops caught telling more lies. Yes they are easier to clean and last longer but I doubt I will ever shoot it down to a shiny shotgun bore.

Besides for 370 it has to beat your run of the mill WASR 10 wouldn't you think?

Can't we all just get along?
 
Besides for 370 it has to beat your run of the mill WASR 10 wouldn't you think?
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Yep, sure do. There is absolutely no reason to put down a man for purchasing something that you might not choose yourself. In all likelihood your CAI will serve you well.

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I can't effectively conceal my H&K USP-45FS (which is pretty dang big), so I don't think that would work for me (nor would it be terribly comfortable), but that is an interesting concept. Anyone know if it is legal to conceal a rifle here somewhere in the US (if so, please specify where). I don't see why not (as long as it is legal and you can legally conceal), but I can't say that I know anyone that has tried it either. FWIW I don't believe it would here in NC, because our CWP is a "Concealed Handgun Permit".

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I can't effectively conceal my H&K USP-45FS (which is pretty dang big), so I don't think that would work for me (nor would it be terribly comfortable), but that is an interesting concept. Anyone know if it is legal to conceal a rifle here somewhere in the US (if so, please specify where).
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Texas has no restrictive long gun laws.

IOW, there is no law here prohibiting carrying a long gun any way you desire, so long as you don't carry in violation of the general firearms laws.
 
I got my rifle in last night. First impressions are very favorable. It definitely feels lighter than my saiga and points real nice and feels balanced. The receiver and barrel look great, nicely machined and black parkerized. Sights look straight. This may sound odd but even the rock and lock feels easier. This one had the wood stock and they look new. I wonder where they came from and if they are czech because the underside of the hand guards still had cosmoline on them. I removed the hand guards to install a MAKO set. I boogered up the wood on the upper hand guard trying to get it off until I figured out how to really do it. The metal does not come apart. Grip or better yet put in a vise the metal ends and twist the wood off. So easy a caveman can do it. The MAKO stuff seemed solid and I put a red dot on it and a pistol grip. I am outfitting this one for my teenage son and he had me order a very long front pistol grip which totally interferes with the magazine. I told him so but being a doting dad makes you agree to dumb stuff sometimes. He really likes the look of the czechpoint polymer stock set so I ordered one for him. Not too bad, 50 including the butt pad and cheek rest. Hopefully the length of pull will be a little longer because the current stock has that commie tucked in too tight feel. Also ordered 4 more magazine. Got a muzzle brake on the way. I guess it is a testament to all the good reviews I have read on the rifle and my own compulsive nature that I ordered so much stuff without even seeing or firing the gun first. I ordered a folder with the resin stocks from jgsales. At 380 shipped how could I go wrong?

Hopefully I will be able to take it to the indoor range soon just to sight in the red dot and get a general impression. IMHO YMMV FWIW YADA YADA I believe I got a nice gun.
 
This may sound odd but even the rock and lock feels easier.
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Not at all, I agree that it is more refined (for lack of a better term) than the AK, which should come as no surprise as the entire rifle exudes the same feel IMO.

I look forward to your upcoming range review.

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vz-58 is a great rifle, and adding accessories from Czechpoitn and Neit Arms just makes it better. :)
That "concealed" set up is a little odd, would work a LOT better with a 20 round mag, plus getting the rifle up to a shooting stance would be hard. Looks like for point and shoot single point sling style shooting. How hard is it to release it to swing out that folding stock?
 
Here is my Vz-58. It is an ORF-build. Only problem I had with it was the front sight was canted (got it fixed) and the pin holding the lower handguard to the receiver was not staked correctly (also fixed).

I ironically got this one when I sold my Czech built one. Many of you will be scratching your heads wondering why I would sell a Czech-made one for a U.S. parts built one from Ohio Rapid Fire of all people is:

-a huge chunk of the top hand-guard was missing when I bought and it was NIB

-the bakelite furniture was wobbly, was not sturdy at all, replaced with wood furniture

-the screw threads holding the pistol grip and butt-stock i guess were not staked or built properly so I had to rescrew the pistol grip and buttstock into the threads properly after every range visit and i did not fire it much

-the magazine it came with did not work at all, would only feed one or two rounds at a time, worked fine with surplus mags

-trigger group felt tacky and wrong

-did not like the finish

-lacked bayonet lug and muzzle brake, i am a purist at heart

Sold my Czech Vz-58 to the Captain of the Rochester, NY SWAT Team


So far my ORF made one has been reliable and super accurate. Has correct military finish I want and features (yes the brake is welded permanently so is still Title 1). Plus I got a ton of replacement parts to go with it when I got it. I know ORF has had heat-treating issues with their receivers. I have not seen any cracks yet so here is hoping that it will last as long as I do.
 

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The weather has been crap lately, can't wait to get out this weekend with the VZ, try for Mrs. Piggy again.
 
Good luck Bennybone; I welcome photos of anything shot with your VZ (that goes for everyone; pitchurs are always good).

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Some of the guys whon post pics at czforumsite.info use the Stormwerkz adapters, and they like them.
The price of the Century's makes even me interested in getting one just to test it out, but I lack the scratch to do so.
 
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