WA silencer use bill Senate hearing!!!

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GOVERNOR SIGNED THE BILL... Oh ya..

OTHER THAN LEGISLATIVE ACTION
Apr 6 Delivered to Governor. (View Bill as Passed Legislature)
Apr 11 Governor signed.

:D
 
Thank you, activists and those who have taken the time to understand and report on the legislative process for all of us.

Here is the actual text of HB1016 as passed and signed: it takes the form of an amendment to the section of the Revised Code of Washington (RCW 9.41.250) which formerly forbade the use (but not the possession) of suppressors (among other things). The amendent added by HB1016 is in bold below (and this is just a reiteration of the unchanged text already given by Ranb above):
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HOUSE BILL 1016
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Passed Legislature - 2011 Regular Session State of Washington
62nd Legislature 2011 Regular Session

By Representatives Blake, Condotta, Armstrong, Shea, Kretz, Klippert, McCune, Takko, Van De Wege, Dunshee, Probst, Liias, Miloscia, Finn, Hurst, Springer, Goodman, Rodne, Orcutt, Haigh, Dickerson, Taylor, Warnick, Hope, Dammeier, Kristiansen, Chandler, Ross, Sells, and Upthegrove

Prefiled 12/13/10. Read first time 01/10/11. Referred to Committee on Judiciary.

AN ACT Relating to firearm noise suppressors; and amending RCW 9.41.250.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:
Sec. 1. RCW 9.41.250 and 2007 c 379 s 1 are each amended to read as follows:

(1) Every person who:
(a) Manufactures, sells, or disposes of or possesses any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as slung shot, sand club, or metal knuckles, or spring blade knife, or any knife the blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens, or falls, or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward, or centrifugal thrust or movement;
(b) Furtively carries with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol, or other dangerous weapon; or
(c) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm unless the suppressor is legally registered and possessed in accordance with federal law, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor punishable under chapter 9A.20 RCW.
(2) Subsection (1)(a) of this section does not apply to:
(a) The possession of a spring blade knife by a law enforcement officer while the officer:
(i) Is on official duty; or
(ii) Is transporting the knife to or from the place where the knife is stored when the officer is not on official duty; or
(b) The storage of a spring blade knife by a law enforcement officer.
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Representative Blake will be submitting a bill to ease the restrictions on SBS/SBR later this session; or so I have been told. Myself and some others are planning to meet with Blake sometime after the session is over to discuss strategy. The things we will need from gun owners and others interested in seeing the law changed are meetings with your Senators and Representatives to discuss the bill and encourage them to push for hearings in committee and of course their vote on the floor.

I will know more after we met with Representative Blake.

Ranb
 
Ranb, I have no problem meeting with my reps:
  • Susan Fagan used to work with me, her grand kids and my children were in the same school.
  • Joe Schmick used to own the vending machines where I work, I see him in Colfax and Pullman every once in a while, we have each others phone numbers and email. I also know Pam, his assistant in Olympia.
  • Mark Schoesler, I usually see him each year at the Johnson parade, July 4th in Johnson WA.
  • All three are usually at the Johnson parade along with Representative Cathy McMorris Rogers.
I can also pull my neighbors into this, my neighbor, I've posted his blog URL in some posts here, is also interested in SBRs etc.
 
Ranb, keep us posted on the Blake meeting. I'd be more than happy to try to set up a meet with Rep Rolfes. Sen Rockefeller has always replied to me when I've written to him (It was probably a form letter, but still, if the man has the sense to send SOMETHING back, he might be able to listen to reason) and I can try writing/meeting with him.

Anyone have any sugestions on where I can find info about SBR/SBS statistics and facts? I'd hate to write a letter that amounts to nothing more than "SBS/SBRs should be legal because I like them."

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
If we're going to pull this off we're going to need some real industry support and we would have to be on our A-Game (No bumbling bumbleheads in greasy t-shirts, please. You might be a great guy and a staunch supporter of our 2AF rights, but you're really not our strongest representative). Perhaps we could approach this law the same way we approached the suppressor law by "bringing our laws in line with federal law." I expect any attempt at relaxing of SBR/SBS/MG legislation would meet stiff resistance from Ceasefire and other anti-gun organizations.

On a slightly related note a gentleman on the forum I frequent brought up another point that might be worth discussing in the future.

Not Nipsy Russell said:
I'd like to push for clear legalization of non-pyrotechnic, recreational explosives in small amounts. Tannerite, despite Dan Tanner's protestations, is not legally mixable or useable in WA without all kinds of licensing and hazmat equipment.
Good writeup here from 2008, but still relevant.
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Heck, I'd settle for opening up the "concealed knife" carry laws. Right now - even with a CCW permit - you cannot carry most knives concealed if you really want to get down to it. Pretty much any concealed (like under a winter jacket) hunting knife could get you busted.

SBR would be interesting, but let's also clean up our knife laws.
 
SBS/SBR bills submited.

Here is bill 2099. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/House Bills/2099.pdf

It eases restrictions on SBS/SBR by doing away with the July 1994 registration requirement and merely requiring that they be registered with the feds.

Bill 2098 is SBR only, some sort of backup bill I think. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=2098&year=2011

There is a small group of people working on getting bill 2099 pushed through the legislature. It will of course not go anywhere this session, but it should make progress in 2012.

For those that want to help, there is a www.AR15.com forum member that is making a list of people so they can divide up duties to ensure everything gets done in an efficient manner. Look at this thread and contact the forum member by the name of bigscrun.

The best thing anyone can do right now is getting to know your Representatives and Senator. Write to them (not e-mail) and ask to meet with them in the future about the bill. You do not have to give specifics when you write, but ask them when it would be convenient to meet with them. If there are others who want to meet about the SBS/SBR bill, get together and meet your Rep as a team.

Randy
 
I'm on it! I don't know if we should try making a public stink or if we should try sneaking this through though.
 
Anyone have any sugestions on where I can find info about SBR/SBS statistics and facts? I'd hate to write a letter that amounts to nothing more than "SBS/SBRs should be legal because I like them."
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Next week I plan on sending letters to every county sheriff to find out more on the crime rate associated with SBS and SBR. I should be receiving replies that say they have no such crimes or if they do, hopefully they will include the case numbers I will have asked for. If case numbers are supplied, one of us will need to go to the county court house to search the case file and determine if the sbs or SBR in question was registered or not. Some counties will demand payment for a search up to $70/hour in one case.

For letters that you send to your legislators, you can mention that WA did not have an SBS and SBR crime problem when they tried to ban them along with assault weapons back in 1994. I am sure there is and was a small amount of "sawed off shotgun" crime in WA, but I bet none of them were registered and legally possessed. SBS and SBR were not mentioned at all in the legislative intent when the bill was submitted. You can also say that shotguns with 17 inch barrels and rifles with 15 inch barrels are every bit as useful as their full size counterparts.
 
If we're going to pull this off we're going to need some real industry support and we would have to be on our A-Game (No bumbling bumbleheads in greasy t-shirts, please. You might be a great guy and a staunch supporter of our 2AF rights, but you're really not our strongest representative).
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You are right, we really will need industry support. I heard we had it for the silencer bill, but none of it showed up for the hearings except for WaTom. Yeah he dressed poorly and was ill prepared, but not all his fault. The guy could barely afford the gas to Olympia (I helped pay) and I gave him my talking points ten seconds after I found out I could not speak and right before he approached the committee. He really was the best the industry had to offer to the committee. He covered his stuff then went on to mine right before Kline cut him off. No one else in the industry was willing to do any better.

It was very important that WaTom showed for the hearing no matter what he was dressed like. He was the only one we could count just in case someone from the opposing side said something untrue about the silencer manufacturing indutry in WA. The rest of us at the hearings (other than the WACOPS rep) were just hobbyists representing ourselves.

If the rest of the industry ignores the committee hearings on SBS/SBR like they did for silencers, then we are counting on Tom again. Maybe he can rent a suit. :)

Ranb
 
I'm already banging on a few industry local folk's doors to see if I can get them to commit some of their time to show up.
 
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