Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Ashcons, Jan 24, 2013.
Can you say "confirmation bias"?
All the local stores have had ammo purchase limited since 2008. This just sounds like a corporate policy to override those of the individual stores. I know previously some did no more than 3 of any particular type of ammo, and other stores did no more than 6 boxes total.
Overall I don't mind this. Right now I'm not really hording - I just want to be able to buy a couple boxes so shoot on the weekend .
Need to function test my SD40VE some more this afternoon and I did manage to find a box of Tula on the shelf at the local store. Not my favorite, but it'll do for now.
You "free market" people make me laugh. No one (Walmart) is doing this because they have to, they are doing it because they know full well they will sell all of the ammo they get anyway, but my doing this instead of one person buying 100 boxes of ammo and leaving happy, 50 people will leave with two boxes of ammo each.
Why do you find this hard to understand? Just because you want to buy in bulk, doesnt mean that the guy behind you should be SOL... free market means a business can do what they feel serves them and their customers better.
Good for walmart.
I'm fine with the policy. It used to irritate me to no end when I walked to the local bagel shop to get my morning carbs and on most Fridays some jerk would show up and buy 3-4 dozen bagels for the office and pick the supply clean for an hour. I told the manager since they are going to sell them anyhow, pissing off 15-20 customers to appeas the bulk purchaser was not good policy. Grrr...
The Wal mart in Corinth MS had a sign up saying customers were limited to 3 CASES of ammo. I laughed when I saw that. Someone must have got "boxes" and "cases" messed up.
Will hunting rounds like 270, 30-06, and 308 being affected the same?
The last time I was at Wally World (about 2 weeks ago), there was NOTHING! There were still 20 and 12 guage shells, but NO centerfires and NO rimfires. It was depressing to not even see a box of 22's.
Yeah, I didn't read the ad completely. I think I'm getting burnt out on reading articles, THR threads, clicking on polls, emailing and writing congressman and I just overlooked that.
I hear you!
The last few weeks have been wearing on me, as well, reading all this continuing...er..."fecal excrement" that's going on with respect to gun control.
In the meantime, the country is headed South in a handbasket because we have 535 Congressmen who can't seem to grasp that a major part of their job description has to do with keeping the financial aspect of our nation rolling and on the right track. Maybe, juuuuuuust maybe, if they'd spend the first 11 months of the year working on that, they won't have to pull all-nighters in panic mode for the final weeks of the year.
But I digress...
Here Here brothers. Trying times indeed.
People hate on Walmart but in my area they didn't raise prices during the Great Ammo Drought of '09. The one I frequent didn't have limits either IIRC. I could be wrong. You had to be lucky to catch the ammo before it was gone.
Gal the other night said they weren't even being allowed to send orders. I took that to mean the warehouse was empty.
What part of this do you not understand if I have the money to purchase a product weather it be a box of .22 or a Cadillac the retailer should not be telling me what I can buy with my money.
There is a old saying, Life is tough, its even tougher if your, well you know the rest...
The retailer is not telling what you can buy, he is telling you how much he is willing to sell one person.
Think about this...
A retailer sells you all of his stock. Lets assume you don't resell it. Shucks, lets assume you use it all. It will be a long time before you need more. Meanwhile all of the customers that got nothing look elsewhere for their ammo and are upset that the retailer let it all go to one person.
What about flu vaccines? What about water in drought stricken areas? Should there be no limit on those items either?
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I have always lived by the adage "shoot one, buy two," so I'm not feeling the current crunch too much. As for buying from smaller gun shops or pawn shops instead of the corporate retailers ...
I am all for buying locally and supporting small businesses, but this situation has brought out the worst in some of my local retailers (here in northeast Texas). They will buy out the stock at the big stores and resell in their shops for a huge markup. A local gun shop was trying to sell a 50-round box of Remington Thunderbolts for $13, which normally goes for $3-4. At least the big box stores like Wal-Mart, Gander Mountain and Cabela's won't try to take advantage of the "panic" to gouge the customer, and kudos to them for trying to spread their meager stocks.
When everything slows down and the rush subsides, customers need to remember how the stores acted.
Gun boards can be amazing...
This same topic discussed elsewhere is filled with rage at any notion that just because you are at the front of the buffet line, you can be free to pig out on all the bacon they put out.
Yet here, there is a reasoned discussion that rationing the finite supply of ammo so "we" all get a shot at some (pun intended) is perfectly acceptable.
I commend Walmart for their policy as they are trying to be good to their customers. However I have to ask why everyone hates the people and stores that buy it and sell it for 2 or 3 times the price? Is that not the essence of capitalism? If there is a demand, is it wrong to make money? Are you all a bunch of communists Obama lovers? Seriously, good for those industrious enough to make a buck. If you want ammo, go to Walmart early and buy it. Don't hate on others for being prepared and getting up early to get some and make a few dollars. It is freedom and it is what America is all about.
great. glad they made that policy change.
if you want to buy "bulk" ... go order online and get your 1,000rd box. it's pretty nasty to go to Wal-Mart - clean out the entire ammo shelve and then head home and re-sell that stuff with a hefty mark-up.
Wal-Mart is smart to change their policy - it certainly will keep me shopping there again.
A 3 box limit is better than not selling guns and ammo at all.
Our local Dicks Sporting Goods cleaned out their shelves and has signs up that they will no longer be selling either. I asked a stock guy in the store about it and he didn't know if it was select stores or nation wide. He said they marked down all the ammo and sold it all and the guns all got shipped back to their supplier.
Well, Dicks HAS removed certain firearms from their inventory as a retail chain, I understand.
And if you go to their website, you won't find any long guns that essentially aren't bolt action or lever action. (I didn't look at the .22 rifles, though.)
However, I don't find anything about a more extensive policy of restriction on sales of guns and ammo. This might just be at your local store, much like what Dicks did at their store near Newtown, Ct.
If anybody else has any information, I'd be interested.
The only rifle calibers I saw at my closest Walmart were 30-30, .22WMR and a box of .17. I saw no pistol stuff, plenty of shotgun ammo though.
I almost picked up a couple boxes of 30-30s but I have a few and I really don't use that little rifle except to get it out once in a blue moon just to hear it go boom.
It's a store. They can set policies, as they do with coupons on food items, already. Three boxes a day, depending on caliber, could be a little or could be a lot. In so saying, that is stating that they will sell it, and they are expecting shipments. So, to ensure that more customers come, they limit a little. As one that did work part-time, in a retail store's sporting goods section, crates of shotgun shells are not light!
I just hope that the revolver calibers do NOT vanish before I get there! I do not own a hungry AR-15/AK-** series, that must be fed a lot.
FOLLOW-UP ON DICKS:
Went to a local Dicks...they're still selling guns and ammo with no plans not to.
However, every other place, their ammo shelves are barren because they sell their stock as fast as they get it in. I just missed being able to buy 9mm and .45 acp by a few hours.
You have just answered your own question. All calibers are affected and gone.
Cheaper rounds gone.
Here, .22LR, 9mm, and .223 are not available. Those are also generally of low expense historically. There are high dollar critical defense rounds of .45 ACP around, over a dollar a round, but no lower dollar .45 ACP. Most everything else is available, and some stores have restocked in response to this with full cases of almost every other center-fire round of deer rifle size cartridges. Maybe .308 is a little bought down. There are very few pistols, and a month ago the ones in the case were not going out very well.
There is every indication that the prices are going up. I believe in the near future the foreign makers will likely be available and for less mark up than our domestic producers. This based on .22WMR ammo freshly stocked, with Fiocchi being half priced compared to the others.
I have heard people talking that they knew someone who drove to six Super Walmart's and bought all the 9mm ammo from all six.
There needs to be some elasticity to the demand or this will get real ugly.
This is at each stores discretion. My local Walmart has the three box rule (which is funny cuz there is only about 3 boxes in the entire storage rack), but if you go to the town next to us their store has a six box rule. I have also talked to other shooters who live in rural areas and they are buying 10 - 12 boxes at a time, sometimes the whole case if they can. Rules are made to be bent and or broken. I have even heard of guys bribing the checkers to put a few boxes or a case aside for them when they get their shipments in.
My local walmart has plenty of .270, .243, 30-30 and 30.06
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